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I don't understand the difference between these two genres. Can someone explain? Like lyric styles, flows, beats etc.
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i'd like to see the answer to this
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#6
Pretty sure hip-hop is the culture, and rap is a style of delivering lyrics in hip-hop music. Could be wrong
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#7
rap is a style of vocals, hip hop is a genre of music.

you get rap rock, rap metal, etc.
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This

Seriously though, I know a lot of people who just seem to use these words interchangeably, like in "He's a rapper" and "He's a hip-hopper" meaning the exact same thing.
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Rapping is the singing style, hip hop is the overall name for the music itself.

I guess?

This. Rap is the vocal style.

Though I believe hip-hop also represents the whole "culture", including stuff like graffiti, DJing, and b-boying.
#11
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Rapping is a vocal style. It would be like calling all metal music "scream".

it's funny because not all metal is screaming

EDIT:

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I know a lot of people who just seem to use these words interchangeably, like in "He's a rapper" and "He's a hip-hopper" meaning the exact same thing.

i've actually never heard the term "hip-hopper"
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it's funny because not all metal is screaming


Exactly, and not all hip-hop is rapping.

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Seriously though, I know a lot of people who just seem to use these words interchangeably, like in "He's a rapper" and "He's a hip-hopper" meaning the exact same thing.


And no. Just because somebody is involved in hip-hop music doesn't mean that he is a rapper. There are musicians involved such as the MC. Besides I once played drums at a friend of mines show. (She raps).

If I were to say "He is a singer." to refer to a "rocker" then that wouldn't work. So why does "rapper" work only in hip-hop?
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Rapping is a vocal style. It would be like calling all metal music "scream".


If you think about it what he said makes sense. I did have a valid statement but in one millisecond I completely forgot it. Now Im just as interested to see if someone has an answer to this Q! FMBRAIN!!!
#16
Hip hop is a subculture, rapping is a vocal style that is a major part of said subculture.
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Seriously though, I know a lot of people who just seem to use these words interchangeably, like in "He's a rapper" and "He's a hip-hopper" meaning the exact same thing.

your vocabulary is astounding. Though I guess he could be referring to like a really fly grasshopper or rabbit
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#18
Rap is not a genre of music. Rapping is a vocal technique, like tapping or tremolo picking on a guitar.

Hip Hip is a genre of music.
#19
Hip Hop Invovles Dancing too!

Rapping is about Drugs, Shotting People, and Ladies!
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Pretty sure hip-hop is the culture, and rap is a style of delivering lyrics in hip-hop music. Could be wrong


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#22
One is shit, the other is shit.


o wait...
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One is shit, the other is shit.


o wait...


ignorant comment is ignorant.

but back on point, yeah, i'd suppose that hip hop would be the culture, and raping would be the vocal style...
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ignorant comment is ignorant.

but back on point, yeah, i'd suppose that hip hop would be the culture, and raping would be the vocal style...


I was joking. I dislike the majority of it but there is some that is okay.

Edit: 'It' being hip hop.
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#25
I always figured rap was the more raw form of the two. Like, hip-hop would be the slick new singles of 50 Cent or something, while rap would be like, Tupac or something, ifyou know what I mean. I've heard different explanations from everyone.
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#26
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One is shit, the other is shit.

o wait...


Nope. Your thinking of *insert whatever the hell you enjoy here*.

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Hip Hop Invovles Dancing too!

Rapping is about Drugs, Shotting People, and Ladies!


Nope. Your thinking of Hendrix.
#28
A friend of mine (who is regarded as well-versed in this aspect) likes to make the distinction that hip-hop is the name of the culture, and rap is the musical subset of this culture (setting it apart from things like break dancing and graffiti which also fall into the hip-hop culture).
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#29
I feel that rap is the lyrical aspect, hip-hop is the genre and culture, as many in this thread have already stated.

Other people, however, will argue that rap is a genre focused on commercial success, while hip-hop is more political, metaphorical, etc. I don't really agree with this, but many people feel that way. This video is a good example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKwM5pkbS8&playnext_from=TL&videos=NBnttDzI9Vg
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Rapping is the singing style, hip hop is the overall name for the music itself.
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#31
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ignorant comment is ignorant.

but back on point, yeah, i'd suppose that hip hop would be the culture, and raping would be the vocal style...

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yeah, i'd suppose that hip hop would be the culture, and raping would be the vocal style...


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and raping would be the vocal style...


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raping would be the vocal style...


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raping.


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Hip hop is a subculture, rapping is a vocal style that is a major part of said subculture.

this.

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Rap is not a genre of music. Rapping is a vocal technique, like tapping or tremolo picking on a guitar.

Hip Hip is a genre of music.

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#35
Rap is the vocal style, hip-hop is the music frequently accompanied by rap.

For example, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA2XgVua5uothis is straight-up hip-hop with no vocals.

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I always figured rap was the more raw form of the two. Like, hip-hop would be the slick new singles of 50 Cent or something, while rap would be like, Tupac or something, ifyou know what I mean. I've heard different explanations from everyone.

i'm PRETTY sure it's the other way around actually

i always saw it as hip hop usually has meaning to the words.. whereas rap was just random writing
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I always figured rap was the more raw form of the two. Like, hip-hop would be the slick new singles of 50 Cent or something, while rap would be like, Tupac or something, ifyou know what I mean. I've heard different explanations from everyone.


No, not at all. As has been said repeatedly in this thread, Rapping is the vocal style, hip hop is the music and culture in general.
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