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#1
What kind of pickup would suit metal greatly, but the pickups are not active? I am looking right now a SD Invader pair, both for bridge and neck, but what kind of other bridge/neck pairs are better? Thanks.
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#2
Bareknuckle Holy Diver or something of the like


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Bareknuckle Painkiller plz.

That or a Motor City Nuke, BG Hellarail or a Duncan El Diablo.


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#5
Nobody can give good advise without knowing what amp you are using. Also, there are a lot of types of metal. What are some specific sub genres? or some groups you like?
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Nobody can give good advise without knowing what amp you are using. Also, there are a lot of types of metal. What are some specific sub genres? or some groups you like?


jolly good day to you chap. What's the lead time on a pair of your most brutal pickups.
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#7
Dimarzio has a good selection of high output pickups to chose from. The only ones I'd stay away from are the X2N's cause they can get muddy.
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Depending on what you are looking for.

Bare Knuckle Miracle Man for extreme tightness or Bare Knuckle Warpig for massive output, thick clear lows and warm mids.
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#9
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jolly good day to you chap. What's the lead time on a pair of your most brutal pickups.


'bout 2 weeks at the moment. But my most brutal pickups are too much for most people, even if they play metal Always gotta see what amp they got so I can be sure the pickups don't blow it up... Of course they have to sound good too. What sounds good on a vintage marshal doesn't always sound good on a modern Marshall. What sounds good on a Line 6 spider valve doesn't sound good on a blackface fender. You gotta know what they have to know what to recommend.
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Nobody can give good advise without knowing what amp you are using. Also, there are a lot of types of metal. What are some specific sub genres? or some groups you like?


I use a peavey vypyr 100w
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#11
Then I wouldn't get too focused on the highest output pickups. Stick around 14K resistance with alnico 5 or ceramic depending on the type of metal you play and how "thick" you want your tone compared to how cutting you want your tone. Alnico is gonna be thicker and have more harmonics. Ceramic is going to be brighter and more cutting and the bass is going to be lower and have more chug. To focuse a recommendation more we still need more info about your playing style
#12
Quote by CorduroyEW
'bout 2 weeks at the moment. But my most brutal pickups are too much for most people, even if they play metal Always gotta see what amp they got so I can be sure the pickups don't blow it up... Of course they have to sound good too. What sounds good on a vintage marshal doesn't always sound good on a modern Marshall. What sounds good on a Line 6 spider valve doesn't sound good on a blackface fender. You gotta know what they have to know what to recommend.


baritone tuned in A ->caa od100se+
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#13
Quote by CorduroyEW
Then I wouldn't get too focused on the highest output pickups. Stick around 14K resistance with alnico 5 or ceramic depending on the type of metal you play and how "thick" you want your tone compared to how cutting you want your tone. Alnico is gonna be thicker and have more harmonics. Ceramic is going to be brighter and more cutting and the bass is going to be lower and have more chug. To focuse a recommendation more we still need more info about your playing style

I am a shredder (former punk rocker) who favors hard rock, metalcore tones, and tones like avenged sevenfold and bullet for my valentine. I like tones like those.
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#14
Go with the Invaders, they're the best sounding passive metal pickups IMO. Syn uses them in his guitars, & if you buy his Schecter Signature series guitar, it comes with them... I'll be replacing my stock Duncan Bridge pickup in my C-1 Classic with an Invader Bridge pickup by the end of the year.
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Quote by chaosdsm
Go with the Invaders, they're the best sounding passive metal pickups IMO. Syn uses them in his guitars, & if you buy his Schecter Signature series guitar, it comes with them... I'll be replacing my stock Duncan Bridge pickup in my C-1 Classic with an Invader Bridge pickup by the end of the year.

No offense man, but Invaders sound horrible.
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#16
haha best sounding...haha...
better throw away my warpigs and nailbombs then
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#17
Invaders are already dark and muddy, wouldn't they be even more so on a baritone tuned to A. That just seems like it would sound like sludge to me.
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#18
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Go with the Invaders, they're the best sounding passive metal pickups IMO. Syn uses them in his guitars, & if you buy his Schecter Signature series guitar, it comes with them... I'll be replacing my stock Duncan Bridge pickup in my C-1 Classic with an Invader Bridge pickup by the end of the year.


Don't do it, the JB rapes the Invader, even in metal.

Even on A7X's studio albums the Invader sounds like ass. Bareknuckle's are some of the best pickups i've heard and they're all passive. The have a good range but my preference would lean towards the Warpig or Nailbomb.
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haha best sounding...haha...
better throw away my warpigs and nailbombs then

lol n00b. handmade pups are worthless.



TS: Look into Painkillers, Nailbombs, or get Corduroy to make you a set. Or Wolftone, or BG, or maybe even Frailin... I'm sure he could do you up a custom set.

But going into a Vypyr... it won't really make that much of a difference, I wouldn't think.
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Seems like everyone has a different definition of "best".
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#22
Well im in the market as well, I play through a Mesa Triple boosted through a Orange cab. I play mostly deathcore stuff. I like really tight lows, punchy with smooth lead tones. im kinda digging periphery's tone.
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#23
Quote by MatrixClaw
Bareknuckle Painkiller plz.

That or a Motor City Nuke, BG Hellarail or a Duncan El Diablo.


Worst passive I've ever used.


Which HZ was it, as mine blows the actives out of the water.

If you use a gain boost with the HZ you can boost more than the actives will, and still keep passive characteristics.
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Quote by srob7001
Which HZ was it, as mine blows the actives out of the water.

If you use a gain boost with the HZ you can boost more than the actives will, and still keep passive characteristics.


still don't hold a candle to warpigs. warpigs sound better then actives.
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#26
Quote by justinb904
Dimarzio has a good selection of high output pickups to chose from. The only ones I'd stay away from are the X2N's cause they can get muddy.


DiMarzio Evolution and Evo 2 are both excellent pups. Go with Evo2 if you want the lesser output of the two.
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#27
Quote by AcousticMirror
still don't hold a candle to warpigs. warpigs sound better then actives.


Yea...those don't exist here in the US.

Never seen any shop or person with those to even get an in person sound test.
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#28
ive been lookin for an american equivelent to BKP. anyone know of anything?

OT: to each his own. i had an invader, liked it at first...until i actually developed an ear. the only pick up that i have bought and like was a Duncan Jazz. obviously not what you are looking for. hell id listen to that courdury dude. with that knowledge he just threw at you (14k resistance or less, alnico w/ blah blah blah) he obvoiusly knows what the **** he is talkin about. you should decribe what you dont like out of your current set up, what your current set up is (guitar, amp, pedals) and what you want out of a new pick up. not "which one is the best" cuz thats obviously an opinion. lets hear some facts, and maybe someone can help you out.
#29
Yup.

Which bkp are you thinking?

High output...
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Yea...those don't exist here in the US.

Never seen any shop or person with those to even get an in person sound test.


mine must be a lie then. I'll be sure to let them know.
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mine must be a lie then. I'll be sure to let them know.



I mean I'm sure they exist somewhere in the US, but I have yet to ever run across any and I hit up all the local shops at least once a month.
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#31
axepalace guitarasylum and luxxtone
they don't have a lot of dealers in the US. Which coast are you on.
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#32
Quote by srob7001
I mean I'm sure they exist somewhere in the US, but I have yet to ever run across any and I hit up all the local shops at least once a month.


I gotta be honest... I'm on the west coast of USA, and I've never heard of em either, and i'm usually with a handful of musicians... None of them have ever mentioned them, unless they told me when I was flat out hammered..
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#33
Quote by AcousticMirror
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they don't have a lot of dealers in the US. Which coast are you on.


I live in Orlando FL (East Coast), which is a pretty large city with many music shops.

I've been reading about BK PU's for over a year now, never seen them anywhere. Recently I noticed they have ads in Guitar World, so maybe they are still growing and will be more available soon.

I just can't spend the money they want without actually trying one out first.

I love the Nailbomb I saw in a mag...it was all camo colored. It was pretty bad ass looking.
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Fulltone OCD
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#34
I've been thinking about whacking a set of the Mick Thompson Seymour Duncan actives in my Ibanez MTM2 (yeah, OK, I'm a fan-boi) and have heard a lot of good things about the BareKnuckles. Anyone got any advice on which of the BareKnuckles would beat the Seymour Duncans?

I'm looking to play Insomnium/Omnium Gatherum/Arch Enemy melodic metal stuff (eventually)

Currently I have a Marshall JCM900 1x12 and I'm getting a custom built OD808 pedal soon

Eventually the plan is an Engl Powerball II - but that is going to take some saving.
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#35
Quote by srob7001
I live in Orlando FL (East Coast), which is a pretty large city with many music shops.

I've been reading about BK PU's for over a year now, never seen them anywhere. Recently I noticed they have ads in Guitar World, so maybe they are still growing and will be more available soon.

I just can't spend the money they want without actually trying one out first.

I love the Nailbomb I saw in a mag...it was all camo colored. It was pretty bad ass looking.


Honestly, it's quite hard to find someone who wasn't happy with their BKP.

In any case they have a return policy if you really end up not liking it.
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#36
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Well im in the market as well, I play through a Mesa Triple boosted through a Orange cab. I play mostly deathcore stuff. I like really tight lows, punchy with smooth lead tones. im kinda digging periphery's tone.

The Recto isn't going to help your likeness to tight low end, but I happen to know that Bulb *loves* Bareknuckles. Give Tim at BKP an email and he'll point you in the right direction.
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#37
Bare Knuckle NailBomb IMO.

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#38
Quote by adjman
I've been thinking about whacking a set of the Mick Thompson Seymour Duncan actives in my Ibanez MTM2 (yeah, OK, I'm a fan-boi) and have heard a lot of good things about the BareKnuckles. Anyone got any advice on which of the BareKnuckles would beat the Seymour Duncans?

I'm looking to play Insomnium/Omnium Gatherum/Arch Enemy melodic metal stuff (eventually)

Currently I have a Marshall JCM900 1x12 and I'm getting a custom built OD808 pedal soon

Eventually the plan is an Engl Powerball II - but that is going to take some saving.


Tim @ Bareknuckle reccomends the Painkiller for my Ibanez to get a similar tone to the Seymour Duncan Blackouts - he emailed me in about 10 minutes, awesome customer service!
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#39
Quote by Yngwi3
The Recto isn't going to help your likeness to tight low end, but I happen to know that Bulb *loves* Bareknuckles. Give Tim at BKP an email and he'll point you in the right direction.


I agree, im purchasing a MXR Compressor and then a new set of pickups to try to balance it out.
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Boss DD-3--Morley Mark Tremonti Wah

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#40
Quote by ragingkitty
Honestly, it's quite hard to find someone who wasn't happy with their BKP.

In any case they have a return policy if you really end up not liking it.


I know they have a return policy, but are they not in the UK?

Thats some shipping I don't really want to pay for if I ended up not liking them.

Plus cost. I mean they are what 100 pounds (i think that is what your money is called in UK) which is like 145.00 or so US dollars

I mean thats a significant amount to pay for 1 PU. To me it would have to be miles better than a more common brand of PU that would be half the cost of a BKP.

I mean what makes them worth that amount? Why are these SOOO much better than say DiMarzio, EMG, SD, who have been around for decades and really have there shit together when it comes to PU's a t afraction of the cost...and available everywhere.
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Jackson RR24M - EMG ALX w/ ABQ installed
Ibanez Xiphos - stock
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Blackstar HT-20H
Fulltone OCD
MXR 10 Band EQ
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