#1
I personally think that this is ridiculous. It's just where kids "Follow their passions and go with them". However, it's more let the children do what they want. There's also a kind of this called "Radical Unschooling" where there's barely even parenting involved.

It's perfectly legal in MA, apparently. The families that have unschooled children just have to report that they're home schooled. It's not even controversial in my opinion, it's just illogical.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/unschooling-homeschooling-books-tests-rules/story?id=10796507

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling

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You know I would expect this from Arkansas or Alabama.

Never Massachusetts.
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I can't deny that most stuff learned in school is pretty useless, and possibly a waste of time. But there are some things that you just have to learn, and are essential in life. I'm all for kids finding what they love doing and devoting themselves to it, but truth is most won't. They'll spend all their time playing and having fun, finding nothing they can make a career out of and learning nothing while doing it.
#6
When the state's economy is crippled by the pitiful output of diplomas and suitably qualified potential employees, we'll see who has the last laugh; that'll show those gay-friendly liberal Puritans.


Seriously though, when I saw the thread-title I thought this was some counter un-conditioning to erase the painful memories of public schooling
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Seriously though, when I saw the thread-title I thought this was some counter un-conditioning to erase the painful memories of public schooling

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#10
Could be cool if the parents did it right. Seems like a way you could potential eliminate all the bogus stuff about public school curriculums and spend the time learning valuable things, or truly exploring a subject deeply
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Could be cool if the parents did it right. Seems like a way you could potential eliminate all the bogus stuff about public school curriculums and spend the time learning valuable things, or truly exploring a subject deeply

You could even earn a Doctorate in Seuss.
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I mean more like, you could just do the bare basics of say english and history, but spend 12 years truly learning about physics; enough that you could have a very in depth understanding of even complex thoeries by the time you "graduate."

But like I said, it all depends on whos teaching you
#13
i think parents should teach their kids, i learnt the basics in school which are tools to learn, (writing and reading) but i found a lot more out by watching the discovery channel and by just life in general, you learn abit in school but you live and learn anyway.
#14
It's a range of educational philosophies, one of the four major schools, and it has become fairly influential in the past few decades and produced some good results. To call it "letting kids do what they want" is a facile reduction.
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i think parents should teach their kids, i learnt the basics in school which are tools to learn, (writing and reading) but i found a lot more out by watching the discovery channel and by just life in general, you learn abit in school but you live and learn anyway.


Really? I think if anything, it should be the other way around. Think about it, most people can read and write, and could (and usually do in some way) teach their kids how to.

But I know for a fact if I asked my parents how to do fluids equations, they wouldnt have the first idea on where to start
#16
For most people, it'd be completely ridiculous and stupid. However, my friend's boyfriend basically does this and he's very knowledgeable and intelligent. He basically just learns about what he wants to when he wants to and hangs around having fun. It works for some that can handle it, but certainly isn't a good choice for most families.
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Really? I think if anything, it should be the other way around. Think about it, most people can read and write, and could (and usually do in some way) teach their kids how to.

But I know for a fact if I asked my parents how to do fluids equations, they wouldnt have the first idea on where to start


No they wouldn't but by the time you want to learn that i'd put a bet you'd be interested in all the things leading up to that before. Like you wouldn't start out in music by trying to play a steve vai song on guitar, you'd start out learning basics of the instrument and this same thing applys to anything in life, kids start out learning maths and reading and writing and as time goes on they can choose what they prefer. I never liked maths but i always loved english , drama and music :]

edit : what i'm saying is, interests develop and people learn on their own if they really are interested in those things.
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Seriously though, when I saw the thread-title I thought this was some counter un-conditioning to erase the painful memories of public schooling


Hahaha. Same exact feeling here. I am disappointed
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#21
Like most anything, this is conditional. Basically, if the parents or kids are dopes, it won't work and they'll slack off, and not obtain knowledge of any real educational merit. But if the parents or kids have a genuine will to better their children/themselves, it could potentially work, and with greater freedom than most schools would allow. However, you also have to account that this takes away the rest of the school experience, and the kids ability to have a normal social life, and have a more hands-on experience. I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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No they wouldn't but by the time you want to learn that i'd put a bet you'd be interested in all the things leading up to that before. Like you wouldn't start out in music by trying to play a steve vai song on guitar, you'd start out learning basics of the instrument and this same thing applys to anything in life, kids start out learning maths and reading and writing and as time goes on they can choose what they prefer. I never liked maths but i always loved english , drama and music :]

edit : what i'm saying is, interests develop and people learn on their own if they really are interested in those things.


I think we both have very similar ideas actually. I think we should learn basics of everything, but only go in depth about things were interested in.

I guess my question is just this, if they arent learning it at school, where are they learning it?
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For once, I am actually ashamed of my home state.


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What makes these parents think that they're qualified to teach their children anything besides how to wipe their asses?
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You honestly think that I'm on-par with those people? I'm insulted.

Anyway, as someone who's been homeschooled for part of their life, I'm just sick that some people abuse this idea to essentially absolve themselves of any and all parenting or teaching responsibilities. Plus on top of that, it's handicapping the kids; How do you think they'll cope when they get a job and have to wake up early, have to conform to a set of rules, have to learn basic employee conduct and procedures, etc., etc.? It's just a recipe for disaster that looks no farther than sunset.
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#31
I agree with a lot of the people that say education has to be rethought out. But this seems pretty ridiculous.
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You honestly think that I'm on-par with those people? I'm insulted.

Anyway, as someone who's been homeschooled for part of their life, I'm just sick that some people abuse this idea to essentially absolve themselves of any and all parenting or teaching responsibilities. Plus on top of that, it's handicapping the kids; How do you think they'll cope when they get a job and have to wake up early, have to conform to a set of rules, have to learn basic employee conduct and procedures, etc., etc.? It's just a recipe for disaster that looks no farther than sunset.



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#33
I disagree with this. I believe free spiritism is very important to an extent but there needs to be a level of discipline the child is conditioned to.
EDIT:
okay I fully understand and realize the problems within the school system, but I don't think disregarding it is the best route. I did self schooling, (independent study) and I turned out fine, learned how to discipline myself and graduated with a 3.7 gpa.
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