#1
Hi there!

Thanks for clicking on this thread ;D

Now, to the matter - I need an Amp!

I'd like a powerful stack with head and speaker(s) - not combo - and preferable a Marshall or an Orange with about 100 Watts (that should do) to play music such as AC/DC, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple, and for more modern stuff as The Black Keys, Black Stone Cherry and The Answer.

I would run it with as few effects as possible, a little wah-wah and some chorus/flanger for the smoothness. And maybe a compressor, but that's about it.

My main guitar is a Gibson SG Standard.

Until now I've been using a Floor Pod Line 6 (quite good, but it seems too... electronic) and the main sounds I've used are a good boost of overdrive and distortion for soloing.

I am a lead player, so I need something that can work for that.

But I have no ideas about the different Amps there is because I live far, far away for the nearest decent store, but soon I'll be traveling and I have to get one.

So, please, if you know a lot about Amps and reading what I've described you have just the Amps in your head please post the name and I'll look it out! Thanks!

My budget is about 400-600 (even 700) pounds.
#2
used marshall tsl/dsl combo? check gumtree saw a tsl with cab for £600
if your willing to stretch to 700 spend the extra 100 on an overdrive (new)
or a used OD and chorus/compressor/wah(choose one)
#3
I would try the two Hiwatt HG heads. They are 50w and 100w and have huge levels of punch through their custom made by Fane speakers. I tried the 50 a couple of weeks ago and was knocked out by it. That was through a cheap Maxwatt 4x12 (400w) cab and it struck me as an awesome combination. You won't quite get it for your target price but it shouldn't be too far over. The cleans are warm but not as dark as Vox and not as bright as Fender if that helps. And the Higain channel is the best I have ever heard despite the very low (for Hiwatt) price. Build quality is what you'd expect from a company specialising in £2000 heads.
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#4
Jet City JCA-50 head
Blackstar HT-100
Blackstar Series One 45 (used)
Blackstar Series One 100 (used)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50/100 (used)
Marshall JCM 800 (used)
Marshall JCM 900 (used)
Marshall JVM (used)
Orange Rockerverb (used)

BTW, why do you need 100W, a full stack and why do you limit yourself to Marshall and Orange?
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#5
Quote by JesusCrisp
Jet City JCA-50 head
Blackstar HT-100
Blackstar Series One 45 (used)
Blackstar Series One 100 (used)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50/100 (used)
Marshall JCM 800 (used)
Marshall JCM 900 (used)
Marshall JVM (used)
Orange Rockerverb (used)

BTW, why do you need 100W, a full stack and why do you limit yourself to Marshall and Orange?


There are other amps that I like too, but they are far off my price range (Mesa Boogie and so on) but mostly because I LOVE the sound of Marshalls and Orange (although they are quite different)

I want 100 because if I buy 50 someday I will want 100, so I rather spend a little more and get something just a bit... tougher

And combos suck.
#6
Quote by Tim the Rocker
There are other amps that I like too, but they are far off my price range (Mesa Boogie and so on) but mostly because I LOVE the sound of Marshalls and Orange (although they are quite different)

I want 100 because if I buy 50 someday I will want 100, so I rather spend a little more and get something just a bit... tougher

And combos suck.


You might be able to get a used Mesa combo for £700
If you're going to get a DECENT Marshall or Orange combo you're going to need to go used anyway really.

Combos don't suck, at all, in any way, apart from the fact that larger ones are quite heavy.

50 watts is completly fine for anyone, nobody actually needs anymore than that.
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#7
I can look around for an used, but it will be pretty hard to get around here.

And what do you think about the Marshall MA? The new series they just launched, sound interesting.
#8
Quote by Tim the Rocker
I can look around for an used, but it will be pretty hard to get around here.

And what do you think about the Marshall MA? The new series they just launched, sound interesting.


If you can't buy used then you won't get that much for your money, sure you'll get something that works fine and sounds fine. But if you want true quality gear you're going to need abit more than that for new stuff.

Whereabout in England are you? Why is it going to be so hard?

The MA series are shite.
"In modern music, a lot of people are really stuck on the example, asif it were the idea. It takes millions of examples to articulate an idea, so don't get stuck on the f*cking example." - Joshua Homme, 2008.
#9
for around £700, you could try and get hold of a 2nd hand Mesa Boogie rectoverb
50watt combo
if you are dead set on a stack, you might be able to find a 2nd hand Marshall DSL for that

1) you do not need 100 watts at all, more wattage =/= better

2)seriously, please tell me why combos suck?
they are more portable, save more space, and are cheaper than buying a stack, all you get is less speakers.
it will still be the same volume as a stack, just not push as much air
and if you really want a stack later on, you can save up, find out what you actually want from the cab (i.e. does the cab give you that little bit extra that you are looking for in your tone), and buy a cab to run your combo through


I hear the MA series arn't all that great, much better amps for the price
Quote by Led Dirigible
Crickets have too much high end for my tastes. I prefer a nice beetle, lots of warm low end.

tl;dr put a beetle in your amp for superior toanz.

Guitars: Schecter C-1 Classic
Westfeild LP e4500
Amp: Vox AD15VT
#10
Quote by Rapter-paul
2)seriously, please tell me why combos suck?
they are more portable, save more space, and are cheaper than buying a stack, all you get is less speakers.
it will still be the same volume as a stack, just not push as much air
and if you really want a stack later on, you can save up, find out what you actually want from the cab (i.e. does the cab give you that little bit extra that you are looking for in your tone), and buy a cab to run your combo through


But you don't look like a super cool rocker dude, girls dont have sex with you if you don't have a Marshall stack, FACT.
"In modern music, a lot of people are really stuck on the example, asif it were the idea. It takes millions of examples to articulate an idea, so don't get stuck on the f*cking example." - Joshua Homme, 2008.
#11
Quote by FuzzLove
But you don't look like a super cool rocker dude, girls dont have sex with you if you don't have a Marshall stack, FACT.


silly me, that totally slipped my mind

so TS might as well buy a 2nd hand MG stack, and use the rest of the money on drugs and booze and become a real rocker?


please don't do this xD

Quote by Led Dirigible
Crickets have too much high end for my tastes. I prefer a nice beetle, lots of warm low end.

tl;dr put a beetle in your amp for superior toanz.

Guitars: Schecter C-1 Classic
Westfeild LP e4500
Amp: Vox AD15VT
#12
I've got ma booze and ma chicks, so that's not where it the cream is

And I'm not in England, I live in Spain, but I intend to go there on holiday and pick up a stack and make them ship it.

I just think that combos doesn't hit that hard, stacks you can change the speakers to your suit.

I'll look at some second hand DSL and Boogie, but it's not that I need a rig to play in front of 25.000 people, just a couple hundred and I fairly ever do play for an audition. The 3-4 times I've done it it's been fun with my Floor Pod, but some people said it sounded like it came from a computer, which sucks you know. And I've stripped down my Floor Pod to just a handful of sounds (you know that experience, I am sure) and they are all Marshall/Orange/Fender based amp settings.

So, for the music cited above, what should I get (new) for 700 pounds (euro)?
And if second hand, the DSL or used Boogie?
#13
Actually I recommend that TS gets a one of these:

http://shop.marshallamps.com/products/productdetail/part_number=POST-00058/1389.0?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping&os=googleshopping

Just stick it on the wall at every rehersal/gig that you do, play through whatever amp you like.

The girls will LOVE it, big time.
"In modern music, a lot of people are really stuck on the example, asif it were the idea. It takes millions of examples to articulate an idea, so don't get stuck on the f*cking example." - Joshua Homme, 2008.
#14
^^^^^, probably the dsl, I thought you were in England, so I'd suggest auction sites, but I don't think that will be a possibility.
if you can try them, try the JCM 2000 dsl combo, and the JCM2000 TSL combo, you may like the tsl more???

you can easily change speakers in a combo, and a stack will be an utter btich to lug around to gig/aduitions
combos hits plenty hard enough, trust me
also stacks will be rather heavier than a combo, so I suggest you look into the weight of it, and try to get a quote for shipping, it may be rather expencive
Quote by Led Dirigible
Crickets have too much high end for my tastes. I prefer a nice beetle, lots of warm low end.

tl;dr put a beetle in your amp for superior toanz.

Guitars: Schecter C-1 Classic
Westfeild LP e4500
Amp: Vox AD15VT