#1
i'm relativly new to playing guitar with a whammy bar and i was wondering if i could ask something.

So far i've got Dive Bombs, Squelies and Flutters in the bag, what i'm interested in though is finding out what this other technique is called and where i can learn about it.

i noticed it in the solos in Trivium's Shattering The Skies Above and this guy uses it in this: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/whammy-bar-tricks/

i think what he does is either depressed the bar first, picks the note then raises it back to the original pitch or plays the note, depresses it then allows it to return to the fundamental frequency.

Any help is appreciated .
#2
Yeah, it's just bringing each note up to pitch with the whammy bar. Steve Vai is a god at doing this, listen to some of his stuff. You don't always have to pluck the note either.

I love doing this with a combination of hammer ons and pull offs to get a massive flurry of bending notes.

This is just like doing a very fast, smooth little slide up to pitch (maybe possible on a fretless), and you really have to just feel it, as this is such an expressive technique, uses it too much and you lose it. Don't use it enough u'll sound stale. So it has to be used very tastfully.

Toodles!
- Ibanez S470 (2004)
- late 70's vintage Fender Stratocaster (USA)
- VOX VT100 Amp
- Digitech Whammy Pedal
- Weeping Demon Wah Pedal
- Visual Sound Volume Pedal
- MXR Micro Amp
#3
Ok, i do like a bit of Steve Vai, but i never noticed that he used that, i'll have to listen out more.

So you depress the bar, sound the note then raise back to the orginal pitch?

EDiT: is it called a Scoop?

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/guitar_techniques/unusial_bending_techniques.html

i think that is the lesson i'm looking for.
Last edited by Afroboy267 at Jun 5, 2010,
#4
What you said does work, but that is only one application of this 'scooping' (i've never heard it called scooping, actually, i've never had to name it summin until now)

You can play the note for a whole bar and then do it. Just play a note and tap the bar. Then try taping the bar in different rhythms. and then try it before you play a note.

But really the best way to learn this stuff is to just muck around with ur whammy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIbNNVBGEpU Steve Vai plays a solo in this that shows off this technique very well. Using it before notes, during notes and at different rhythms.

Toodles!
- Ibanez S470 (2004)
- late 70's vintage Fender Stratocaster (USA)
- VOX VT100 Amp
- Digitech Whammy Pedal
- Weeping Demon Wah Pedal
- Visual Sound Volume Pedal
- MXR Micro Amp