#1
Hey there,
I have this question:

Is the esp ltd 10 series (M-10, F-10, etc) which ESP put in the starter pack is the same with the 50 series (M-50, F-50)?
Is there any differences between those two?
I know it's not a great guitar and all, but it's decent for a beginner
I do know that the higher the model number, the better specs the guitar have,
such as the f-100 got the same specs like f-50 except the flamed maple top,
but this two bottoms model make me confuse a lil' bit...
#2
Both those guitars are, erm, basic, so just get whichever is going to be cheaper.
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#3
10 = 50

Hm... Something seems wrong with this statement... Can't quite put my finger on it...
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

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(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
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Douglas Grendel 725
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#4
how much is that starter pack ???
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#5
Quote by Offworld92
10 = 50

Hm... Something seems wrong with this statement... Can't quite put my finger on it...

haha,

mathematically 10 won't equal to 50,
but can you tell me any differences?
there must be something because the price for 50 is higher than 10 in the packs,
but the pickup (for what I know) is the same stock pups
#6
Quote by Skysc
how much is that starter pack ???

the starter pack for F-10 is USD 229,
and the F-50 is USD259,

seriously, if it is the same guitar with different name when in pack,
it doesn't make sense if the guitar only cost more,
but yet, i couldn't find the difference.....
#7
Maybe the wood is different. Get the M-50.
Marshall amplifiers are the truest purveyors of rock and roll known to man.

"And give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer, and he doesn't become whoever, you know. He doesn't become us."

Holy crap, check this out!
#8
The M-10 is a string through, while the M-50 has a standard tremolo. I don't believe the pickups are the same, as the lowest end LTD's have ESP-150 pickups, but the M-10's pickups don't say ESP on them.


Starter packs in general do not have quality gear in them. Basically, they are good only for testing the waters of guitar. Generally, people start feeling like throwing them out of second story windows after about half a year. They quality of the instruments in them are as low as you can get, as far as legitimate (non fake) instruments go, and that fact alone can deter would be players from playing.

The starter pack is $230, but what sort of a budget do you have available?
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#9
Quote by Offworld92
The M-10 is a string through, while the M-50 has a standard tremolo. I don't believe the pickups are the same, as the lowest end LTD's have ESP-150 pickups, but the M-10's pickups don't say ESP on them.


Starter packs in general do not have quality gear in them. Basically, they are good only for testing the waters of guitar. Generally, people start feeling like throwing them out of second story windows after about half a year. They quality of the instruments in them are as low as you can get, as far as legitimate (non fake) instruments go, and that fact alone can deter would be players from playing.

The starter pack is $230, but what sort of a budget do you have available?


yup, I agree your opinions about starter pack guitar,
I got a budget enough for a decent beginner guitar, around 270 to maybe 300,
and I play guitar as my hobby, so for now I don't really need a great electric,
I started on acoustic though

p/s: Miss The Rev too
#10
I take it this is your first electric then? And you don't have an amp already?
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#11
Quote by Valkrar
haha,

mathematically 10 won't equal to 50,
but can you tell me any differences?
there must be something because the price for 50 is higher than 10 in the packs,
but the pickup (for what I know) is the same stock pups

He means they're equivalent.

Don't ever waste money buying a prettier version of a guitar that you know you're going to rid rid of as soon as your skills and/or finances improve. You'll never see that money back.

Actually as a rule of thumb, unless you think, "Man, I'm NEVER going to sell this thing!" when you try it out, don't spend the money on ANY cosmetic upgrades unless it's a VERY small price difference.
#12
Quote by Offworld92
I take it this is your first electric then? And you don't have an amp already?

Yup,
but I have play some electrics before,
like my cousin Washburn Dime, I forgot which model since there a few of Dime models,
and my cousin will give me his Fender 15watt amp since he got another 100watt Fender amp
#13
If it's a Frontman, then it'll do for now.

Well, do you want a tremolo, or not?
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#14
Quote by jean_genie
He means they're equivalent.

Don't ever waste money buying a prettier version of a guitar that you know you're going to rid rid of as soon as your skills and/or finances improve. You'll never see that money back.

Actually as a rule of thumb, unless you think, "Man, I'm NEVER going to sell this thing!" when you try it out, don't spend the money on ANY cosmetic upgrades unless it's a VERY small price difference.

opps, my mistake, he3,

further inspection I found out the F-10 (not sure whether all the 10 series also the same) has single-hum configuration,
the F-50 got hum-hum configuration and Duncan Designed humbucker (from the pic I saw)
and also some cosmetic difference like hardware color,
#15
Quote by Offworld92
If it's a Frontman, then it'll do for now.

Well, do you want a tremolo, or not?

I think I have little use of it,
and I hate to always tune my guitar and so...

and 24 frets is just nice,
so any good suggestions?

and yeah, I'm more to hard rock but occasionally play some average metal
#16
Any of the LTD 50 series besides the M & MH would suit you very well. If you do get one, I would be very jealous. My first electric shall not be mentioned... it was bad.

Here are some links to start you looking and thinking.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-EC-50-Electric-Guitar-516672-i1370020.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-Viper-50-Electric-Guitar-542083-i1400098.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-H-51-Electric-Guitar-512888-i1177178.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-F-50-Electric-Guitar-105316582-i1149040.gc

EDIT:
Quote by jean_genie
He means they're equivalent.

Don't ever waste money buying a prettier version of a guitar that you know you're going to rid rid of as soon as your skills and/or finances improve. You'll never see that money back.

Actually as a rule of thumb, unless you think, "Man, I'm NEVER going to sell this thing!" when you try it out, don't spend the money on ANY cosmetic upgrades unless it's a VERY small price difference.


Didn't even see your post there.

Anyhow, that's not what I meant, and I disagree with you. I was being entirely sarcastic.

Also, aesthetics are very important. If you don't like the way your guitar looks, you won't want to play it as much. It makes no sense buying a guitar if it's just going to be a tool. Guitar is a much more personal and emotional thing than that. If you buy a guitar and aren't satisfied with every aspect of it, then (in my opinion) you're wasting your time and money.

In any case, that point is negligible - There is no aesthetic difference between the 10 & 50 series. Just a quality difference. While the 10's are garbage, it's very common for advanced players to use 50's, as backups and practice guitars. They aren't bad.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Jun 10, 2010,
#17
Quote by Offworld92
Any of the LTD 50 series besides the M & MH would suit you very well. If you do get one, I would be very jealous. My first electric shall not be mentioned... it was bad.

Here are some links to start you looking and thinking.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-EC-50-Electric-Guitar-516672-i1370020.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-Viper-50-Electric-Guitar-542083-i1400098.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-LTD-H-51-Electric-Guitar-512888-i1177178.gc

http://www.guitarcenter.com/ESP-F-50-Electric-Guitar-105316582-i1149040.gc


thanks dude,
you've been a great help