#4
Quote by Night_Warrior
Elaborate

You're the one who needs to elaborate. There is no set scale to play over any chord. Use the notes that make up the chord to find a compatible note selection. Also, the chords leading into and out of that particular chord are going to affect which notes you want to use.
Oh yeah.

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EDIT: D minor is the saddest of all keys.
#5
Well, apart from highlighting the notes of the chord, the other notes that you will want to play will be decided by the other chords in the progression and the style of the music.
#6
It is just that chord. Abunch of people are trying to see who can do the best 4 measure solo over that one chord. Sorry if I sound like an idiot.
#7
Then it depends on what you want it to sound like - happy, sad, angry, mysterious etc - though a lot of that will depend on phrasing.
#9
A lot of music is dissonant: you can express a lot of distinct emotions with dissonance.
#13
Quote by Night_Warrior
What scale would you guys use to solo over E13b9?


so its just the one chord you say...

ok..

some choices..lets pick A13b9

any A7b9 , C7b9, Eb7b9, Gb7b9
any Bbdim7 (Db,E,G also)
Bbmelodic minor and its contained modes
D, F, Ab, B maj and all the chords containe in it..

some of this will sound way outside...some will sound..WOW...

play the first 2 bars of Monks Straight No Chaser over it

play well

wolf
#14
if that's the only context, then don't worry about scales -- worry about notes.

E13b9 = E G# B D F A C#

how about those notes?
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#16
Quote by Night_Warrior
So pretty much E Maj, but with a flat 2nd?


and a flat seventh. remember, it's a dominant chord.

still, if you think in terms of notes, it'll be more effective. but you're the one who's soloing, not me.
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#18
So like E Phrygian Dominant with a major 6th?

EDIT: Or E Mixolydian with a flat 2nd...
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#20
Quote by Night_Warrior
Flat 7th? Its in the key of E Maj, no?

A 13th chord is 1 3 5 b7 9 11 13.
#21
Hmm, looking back, the notes you specified implies a major scale with a flat 2nd...
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#22
I know, but that has the same notes as E Phrygian Dominant with a Major 6th, correct? I like the Phrygian scale, as I play metal mainly, so im used to it
#23
I saw someone had posted something about a flat 7th (which would mean yes, phryg dom with maj 6), but the notes you specified (E F G# A B C# D#) is Ionian with a flat 2nd. You could change the notes of the chord, I guess, but otherwise, the scale just sounds like a weird major scale. HTH
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#25
Quote by blue_strat
A 13th chord is 1 3 5 b7 9 11 13.


yep. hence D instead of D#.

honestly, though, if you have to think of it in terms of scales, i wouldn't think of it as E anything. i'd go with A. context aside, 99% of the time this chord would serve as some kind of dominant leading to some kind of A chord. so if you need a scale, make it A major with a flat sixth.

EDIT: i saw that you'll only be soloing over this one chord, so i'm going to assume you're going to treat it as the tonic. in that case, it's just E major with a flat second.
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#26
Well, if the 7th is flat, then it would be *cough*E Phrygian Dominant*cough*... or whatever you decide it is.
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#27
Quote by Saminator
Well, if the 7th is flat, then it would be *cough*E Phrygian Dominant*cough*... or whatever you decide it is.

Phrygian Dominant has a b6.
#28
Quote by blue_strat
Phrygian Dominant has a b6.


Err, yeah, I had mentioned that it would be a Phrygian Dominant with a major 6th... forgot to, this time.
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#30
Chromatic scale should work
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#31
Necrobump... The thread is 3 years old.
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#32
Well, 13b9 chords still exist.

The real trick is figuring out the harmonic context - What is the chord functionally?

Given the natural 13, it's resolving to an Am, so it's probably a V/ii in G major. VI7 n jazz speak. This chord prepares the ii V turnaround.

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