Poll: Would you prefer a president or a monarch
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President
90 83%
Monarch
19 17%
Voters: 109.
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#5
president OR PRIME MINISTER

we don't all presidents but i'd rather have an appointed leader then a family run leadership
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#6
What a pointless poll.

A monarchy focused on descendants and religion or a democratic republic focused on morals and general equality ?

Of course the "president" can also be a tyrant of some sort, but that's not what the political correct definition for president is.
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#7
What kind of question is that?
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#8
I would prefer a Prime Minister. Saying that though, I hate the stupid ****ing monarchy, so president.
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#9
President (I may be 100% biased though due to me living in the USA)

It gives everyone equal opportunity to become the most powerful political figure in the nation. You always hear little kids say "I wanna grow up and be President of the United States!" in the USA because for them it is a possibility, but if its a monarch then only people born to a certain family have the ability to become powerful? That just seems wrong on a moral level.

(Keep in mind that my above statement is 99% full of holes and empty accusations, please don't hurt me)
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#11
The monarchy should be abolished.

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President. I don't like absolutism thanks.


The monarch is just a figurehead, they don't actually don't anything.
#12
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President (I may be 100% biased though due to me living in the USA)

It gives everyone equal opportunity to become the most powerful political figure in the nation. You always hear little kids say "I wanna grow up and be President of the United States!" in the USA because for them it is a possibility, but if its a monarch then only people born to a certain family have the ability to become powerful? That just seems wrong on a moral level.

(Keep in mind that my above statement is 99% full of holes and empty accusations, please don't hurt me)



How naive.
#13
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The monarch is just a figurehead, they don't actually don't anything.


Quote of the year.

I don't see why anyone would ever prefer a monarchy over a democratic government.
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#14
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The monarch is just a figurehead, they don't actually don't anything.
Yeah, because they aren't the head of state.
#15
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The monarchy should be abolished.


The monarch is just a figurehead, they don't actually don't anything.


yet keep getting money from our gov. and i mean LOADS of money
#16
Quote by Sir-Shredalot
How naieve.


Excuse me, who is naïve here ?

You're the one proposing we forget our last 400 years of efforts to separate religion from state and forget our efforts for people to have rights.

You're right, science is blasphemy and the world is flat.
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#17
Quote by Sir-Shredalot
How naieve.


Quite obviously you don't think that I honestly believe that the President has ALL of the political power like a 3rd grader would, now do you?

I think it is quite fair to say that when it comes to decisions that directly affect the USA on a political stand-point, the President has the most power in a single person.

This power is balanced out by the system of checks and balances, the basis upon which our country is founded, but in a SINGLE person, the president has the most.

Now please STFU and GTFO if you're going to keep insulting my debate.


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Excuse me, who is naïve here ?

You're the one proposing we forget our last 400 years of efforts to separate religion from state and forget our efforts for people to have rights.

You're right, science is blasphemy and the world is flat.



And this.
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#18
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Yeah, because they aren't the head of state.


They don't do anything to actually run the country.
#20
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The monarch is just a figurehead, they don't actually don't anything.


That's the point. Presidents are hated though, Monarchs are generally liked
#22
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You're the one proposing we forget our last 400 years of efforts to separate religion from state and forget our efforts for people to have rights.




I assume youre referring to America. I never mentioned them.
#23
as long as we get to elect the head of the nation I'm fine with it.
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#24
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They don't do anything to actually run the country.
Pretty sure I just agreed with you.

When they were the head of state though they did run the country.
#25
prez as then i'd get to choose who's in charge according to their policies, monarchies are too rigid for my liking.
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#26
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That's the point. Presidents are scapegoats, Monarchs are pointless in politics


Fixed.
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#27
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I assume youre referring to America. I never mentioned them.




You started a debate about Presidents.

America has presidents.

Thus, through transitive properties, this debate IS ABOUT AMERICA.
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#28
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Excuse me, who is naïve here ?

You're the one proposing we forget our last 400 years of efforts to separate religion from state and forget our efforts for people to have rights.

You're right, science is blasphemy and the world is flat.


He's saying it is naive to think that anybody could become president, when most of the presidents have been from Privileged families.
#29
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Pretty sure I just agreed with you.

When they were the head of state though they did run the country.


Huh? Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic or something.

The monarch is the head of state, but only does ceremonial shit, while the president does both ceremonial shit and actual shit.
#31
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He's saying it is naive to think that anybody could become president, when most of the presidents have been from Privileged families.


Then why didn't he say this?

(I have no idea why I am so into this debate now, but damn it I'm in)

It may be true that money is required to run and win, but with enough ideas that the general public support and now the internet, anything is possible.
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#32
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I assume youre referring to America. I never mentioned them.


How the hell I'm I referring to America ?

America never had a monarchy put in unless you mean when it was ruled by England as a colony.

I'm referring to medieval times in mostly Europe where the distance from the rich to the poor was greater than it is today and where the people had no say and could be executed for withering on the ground in the eyesight of the royal palace.
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#33
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Duhh, monarchs are unelected, unaccountable and undemocratic.




Dont you remember this cunt.


Btw im not pro monarchy, i just was asking considering the UK has a monarchy still.
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#34
Quote by RG5EX1
Then why didn't he say this?

(I have no idea why I am so into this debate now, but damn it I'm in)

It may be true that money is required to run and win, but with enough ideas that the general public support and now the internet, anything is possible.



Because saying only 2 words which are somewhat insulting might make him feel superior?
#35
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Because saying only 2 words which are somewhat insulting might make him feel superior?


Then he has no grounds upon which to make a debate thread.
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#36
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You started a debate about Presidents.

America has presidents.

Thus, through transitive properties, this debate IS ABOUT AMERICA.


Russia, The Sudan, Sri Lanka, Chad, Brazil, and Egypt also have presidents....so i guess through your transitive properties this debate is also about them.....

So how about the Sri Lankan government allowing the president to run again...whats up with that?
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#37
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He's saying it is naive to think that anybody could become president, when most of the presidents have been from Privileged families.


Yes, this is true and fairly obvious. But don't you think it'd be tenfold times harder to get anywhere close in a monarchy ?
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#39
Quote by psorgatz
Russia, The Sudan, Sri Lanka, Chad, Brazil, and Egypt also have presidents....so i guess through your transitive properties this debate is also about them.....

So how about the Sri Lankan government allowing the president to run again...whats up with that?


As long as we're naming countries, why not get them all out of the way:

Argentina
Benin
Bolivia
Brazil
Burundi
Chile
Colombia
Comoros
Costa Rica
Cyprus
Dominican Republic
Ecuador
El Salvador
Gambia
Ghana
Guatemala
Honduras
Indonesia
Iran[1] (to some degree)
Liberia
Malawi
Maldives
Mexico
Nicaragua
Nigeria
Palau
Panama
Paraguay
Philippines
Rwanda
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Sudan
Turkmenistan
United States
Uruguay
Venezuela
Zambia

There. This thread is now about all of those countries.
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