Irish to expel Israeli diplomat over Hamas killing and forging of Passports

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The Irish Republic is to expel an Israeli diplomat over the use of fake passports in the killing of a Hamas official in Dubai.

Foreign Minister Micheal Martin said an investigation had proved that eight Irish passports used in the operation were forgeries.

Hamas official Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was found dead in a Dubai hotel in January.

Dubai police have said they are 99% sure Israeli agents were involved, though Israel says there is no proof.

Mr Martin said in a statement that Israel had been "requested to withdraw a designated member of staff of its embassy" and that he expected the request would "be quickly acceded to".

"The misuse of Irish passports by a state with which Ireland enjoys friendly, if sometimes frank, bilateral relations is clearly unacceptable and requires a firm response," he said.

In Jerusalem, foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said the Israeli government regretted the Irish decision, which he said was "not in line with the importance of our relationship with the Irish government".

'No denial'
Forged British, French, Australian, and German passports were also used in the Dubai operation.

The UK and Australia have already expelled Israeli nationals over the forgeries.

Mr Martin said the Irish had co-operated closely with British and Australian authorities in their investigation of the killing.

He cited "the inescapable conclusion that an Israeli government agency was responsible for the misuse and, most likely, the manufacture of the forged Irish passports associated with the murder of Mr Mabhouh".

Irish authorities had asked for Israeli help in their investigation, he said, but such efforts had "yielded no response and no denial of Israeli involvement".

Six of the eight fake passports used the numbers of existing Irish passport holders, while the other two contained invented numbers conforming to the Irish format, the foreign ministry said.

Mr Martin said those whose passport numbers had been used had been issued with new passports and that he was confident this would allow them "to travel free from any suspicion".

"As I have stated from the outset, my priority throughout this affair has been to ensure the security of the innocent Irish citizens affected and to protect the integrity of the Irish passport," he said.

Last week it emerged that authorities in Poland arrested a suspected Israeli agent in connection with Mr Mabhouh's death.

Germany is seeking his extradition over a forged German passport used by one of the killers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10319210.stm


Here's part of the statement from Ireland's minster for Foreign affairs.

I would also wish to put on record that the Government condemns the murder of Mahmoud al Mabhouh. Many allegations have been made against Mr. Mabhouh which, if true, would categorise him as a committed terrorist. The Irish Government does not believe that States should fight terror with terror. As a matter of principle, Ireland opposes extra-judicial killings. We believe that States have a duty to operate according to the law and to respect that way of life that terrorists seek to destroy.
I very much want Ireland and Israel to enjoy productive bilateral relations. Even more, I want to see Israeli’s living in peace and prosperity in a State recognised by its neighbours. However, the Government and the vast majority of the Irish people disagree with certain policies pursued by the Israeli Government, particularly in its relations with the occupied Palestinian territories, and I will not hesitate to express criticism of such policies where I believe this is warranted and where the policies in question, such as the current blockade of Gaza, are inimical to the achievement of a viable two-State solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and a comprehensive overall settlement in the Middle East.
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#2
Now Ireland too?!

How about Israel just stop making fake passports, then they won't ruffle so many people's feathers.
#3
Israel just keeps getting itself into trouble, doesn't it? I don't think they handled it very well. Seems like a pretty tough spot for the Irish government to be in, though.
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#12
Ireland handled this whole thing really well I think, particularily Michael Martin. They really put the pressure on Israel, didn't let up, and helped expose some of it's corruption.

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#13
They should've done this months ago.
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Quote by Declan87
Ireland handled this whole thing really well I think, particularily Michael Martin. They really put the pressure on Israel, didn't let up, and helped expose some of it's corruption.


Micheál Martin is probably the only Fianna Fáil TD that I have any time for. I don't always agree with him, but he is an intelligent man and generally makes good decisions. The smoking ban was his baby too back when he was Health Minister.
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They should've done this months ago.

AFAIK they deliberately delayed it in order to avoid confusion with the Flotilla incident.
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i still say they should force them to invest in the irish housing market. they could have all the new settlements they want. as long as they don't mind negative equity, tiny gardens, and identikit developments in the commuter belt. by commuter belt i mean all of ireland, since it's small.
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**** this!!

Dubai already had strict security at airports....now just traveling there's gonna be ****ing annoying!!


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#19
^ they prefer "economic migrants", meths.
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Yes indeed.

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His second secretary sent back a 3 page report on my duties as a consumer and if I get a camera, I could post the proof if required
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#23
Good. Everyone should follow suit.
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Interesting question...
#24
surprise, israel doing bad things quite blatantly then denying it and hiding behind the U.S.

also: Kudos ireland. my respect has been earned.
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That's what you get for frequenting an Islamofascist kingdom built on slave labour.

....what?
I've been there once....going again soon.

And also....what?!
Stop talking out your ass!
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....what?
I've been there once....going again soon.




Wow! Good point!
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Interesting question...
#27
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....what?
I've been there once....going again soon.

And also....what?!
Stop talking out your ass!

Dubai is quite clearly built on near slave labour (in fact, possibly slave labour in a not insignificant proportion of cases)

"However, many of Dubai's 250,000 foreign laborers live in conditions described by Human Rights Watch as being "less than human."[44][45][46] NPR reports that workers "typically live eight to a room, sending home a portion of their salary to their families, whom they don't see for years at a time." On 21 March 2006, workers at the construction site of Burj Khalifa, upset over bus timings and working conditions, rioted: damaging cars, offices, computers, and construction tools.[47][48][49][50] The global financial crisis has caused the working class of Dubai to be especially hard hit, with many workers not being paid but also being unable to leave the country"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai#Human_Rights
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#28
^ yah, pretty much. though also dodgy debt etc.

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zomg, that's amazing


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i dunno, the israeli ambassador to my house is quite nice.
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Here's part of the statement from Ireland's minster for Foreign affairs.

I would also wish to put on record that the Government condemns the murder of Mahmoud al Mabhouh. Many allegations have been made against Mr. Mabhouh which, if true, would categorise him as a committed terrorist. The Irish Government does not believe that States should fight terror with terror. As a matter of principle, Ireland opposes extra-judicial killings. We believe that States have a duty to operate according to the law and to respect that way of life that terrorists seek to destroy.


And yet, the USA using Shannon airport to refuel planes that bomb the shite out of Afghanistan is okay with the Irish Government.
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#31
Israel will probably hide behind the US as they usually do. Israel seems to be like the US's retarded cousin who they keep having to stick up for when he ****s up.

Good of Ireland to stand their ground on this.
#32
I walked past the Israeli embassy late one night with a clipped passport in my pocket. I was tempted to be smug and lob it at them, but then I remembered they tend to shoot first.
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Ireland handled this whole thing really well I think, particularily Michael Martin. They really put the pressure on Israel, didn't let up, and helped expose some of it's corruption.



Some?

Dude, do you even know how much shit happens in the Israeli government?
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I walked past the Israeli embassy late one night with a clipped passport in my pocket. I was tempted to be smug and lob it at them, but then I remembered they tend to shoot first.


I'd shoot you for a klondike bar.
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