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Hey UG,

Many people have told me that it's realy bad to plug your guitar into an amp that already turned on (you know when you hear that loud popping sound) and it can eventualy mess up the amp bad.

Is there any truth to this ?

P.S. Personaly I believe that's complete bull****
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#3
It offends my ears when I do this. That's enough for me to avoid it by turning down the volume. Except when I'm not paying attention.
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Hey UG,

Many people have told me that it's realy bad to plug your guitar into an amp that already turned on (you know when you hear that loud popping sound) and it can eventualy mess up the amp bad.

Is there any truth to this ?

P.S. Personaly I believe that's complete bull****

Well you're wrong and the fact that you are wrong makes you right.

Basically it can damage the speaker, not the amp. The loud pop, in extreme cases can cause an extreme excursion of the speaker and could potentially damage the cone. It cannot damage the amp itself however. So the first misconception you had (that it was said to damage the amp) led to the second (that it was complete BS) being true. Words are fun!
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Its is not complete bs what so ever. You could not only potentially damage your amp, but you could also blow out your guitar's pickups as well. I turn off my amp EVERY time i want to plug in.
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you can try that with a solid state but i wouldn't do it to much with a tube amp

Not sure, but what does it have to do with the amp's power configuration? As far as I know, it's bad for the speakers more than the amp...
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Its is not complete bs what so ever. You could not only potentially damage your amp, but you could also blow out your guitar's pickups as well. I turn off my amp EVERY time i want @ plug in.

This is bullshit. It can't damage the amp, but only the speakers, and it definitely can't damage the pick ups. Where the hell did you hear that?

Edit: ^ Ya its the speakers not the amp, this is just a big misconception, similar to the 'bass through guitar amp' thing.
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Well you're wrong and the fact that you are wrong makes you right.

Basically it can damage the speaker, not the amp. The loud pop, in extreme cases can cause an extreme excursion of the speaker and could potentially damage the cone. It cannot damage the amp itself however. So the first misconception you had (that it was said to damage the amp) led to the second (that it was complete BS) being true. Words are fun!


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Its is not complete bs what so ever. You could not only potentially damage your amp, but you could also blow out your guitar's pickups as well. I turn off my amp EVERY time i want to plug in.


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#9
Quote by tubetime86
This is bullshit. It can't damage the amp, but only the speakers, and it definitely can't damage the pick ups. Where the hell did you hear that?

Edit: ^ Ya its the speakers not the amp, this is just a big misconception, similar to the 'bass through guitar amp' thing.

So will turning the volume to 0 avoid this ?
#10
Quote by szekelymihai
So will turning the volume to 0 avoid this ?

Yup. Even just turning the volume down will avoid it. Its really only an issue if your amp is cranked and you plug in, causing an earth shattering pop, which as Fly says is just a good thing to avoid anyway.
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#12
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Edit: ^ Ya its the speakers not the amp, this is just a big misconception, similar to the 'bass through guitar amp' thing.


Bass though a guitar amp is also only bad for the speakers ?
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#13
LOL at blown pickups. That's just silly.
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Bass though a guitar amp is also only bad for the speakers ?

Yup. See its a common misconception, but the amp doesn't care what frequencies it amplifies, only the speakers can be damaged by the lows of a bass. The amp is fine.

Just for reference, here is a picture of me plugging in my guitar while my amp is running:

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Its is not complete bs what so ever. You could not only potentially damage your amp, but you could also blow out your guitar's pickups as well. I turn off my amp EVERY time i want to plug in.

I remember I was like you once.

I remember when I thought I knew all there was to know about guitar.


You are wrong.
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I remember when I used to give advice in GG&A like that too...
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#17
Quote by tubetime86
Yup. See its a common misconception, but the amp doesn't care what frequencies it amplifies, only the speakers can be damaged by the lows of a bass. The amp is fine.

Just for reference, here is a picture of me plugging in my guitar while my amp is running:



While we're kinda on the same topic. Can I plug a bass through my Digitech Whammy (or any other guitar pedals for that matter)? Will the whammy also not care what frequencies it shifts and butchers every which way?
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#18
it can de-ionize the pick ups.
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While we're kinda on the same topic. Can I plug a bass through my Digitech Whammy (or any other guitar pedals for that matter)? Will the whammy also not care what frequencies it shifts and butchers every which way?

As far as I know its fine, but Fly135 could probably answer better. With passive pickups I'm sure its fine, with actives I get confused.

Edit: Actually guitars use actives as well so I'm sure that's fine too. The thing is its about signal strength not necessarily frequency. Its just electricity until it hits the speakers.
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Yup. See its a common misconception, but the amp doesn't care what frequencies it amplifies, only the speakers can be damaged by the lows of a bass. The amp is fine.

Just for reference, here is a picture of me plugging in my guitar while my amp is running:




Was that the pickups exploding or the amp?

I had a friend (don't ask who, you don't know him) who plugged into an amp while it was running and his pickups exploded, blowing off his hands and torso. True story. Seriously.
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#21
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Was that the pickups exploding or the amp?

I had a friend (don't ask who, you don't know him) who plugged into an amp while it was running and his pickups exploded, blowing off his hands and torso. True story. Seriously.

It was literally the air molecules around me exploding. Apparently something in the amp inherently starts decaying matter at such a rate that modern physics can't keep up, so it just EXPLODES!

Edit: Luckily I was wearing rubber soled shoes, which saved my life.
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#22
I doubt it will harm the pups. It's conceivable that a charge build up on a cap could fry a pup. But most amp schematics I've seen have an input resistor to ground that would eliminate that possibility.

t can de-ionize the pick ups.
Clean them with 409 to prevent this.
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Quote by PedroLesPaulVM
Was that the pickups exploding or the amp?

I had a friend (don't ask who, you don't know him) who plugged into an amp while it was running and his pickups exploded, blowing off his hands and torso. True story. Seriously.
You forgot to add he had a beard, turban, and a bulky vest on at the time.
#25
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pull the outer pair of tubes and use an attenuator.

What?
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#26
I turn the volume to 0; turn the amp off; and unplug the power cord when I plug the guitar in. When I'm done playing, I turn it on again.
#27
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I turn the volume to 0; turn the amp off; and unplug the power cord when I plug the guitar in. When I'm done playing, I turn it on again.
That's why your family never complains about your playing.
#28
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Clean them with 409 to prevent this.

really? doesn't that cause magnetic back pressure making the string to go flat?
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#29
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That's why your family never complains about your playing.

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#30
i plugged into a turned on amp once and my pickups, my strings, and my cat exploded.
Prs se Holcomb is the answer
#31
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really? doesn't that cause magnetic back pressure making the string to go flat?

Use magnets for picks. Pulls the fragile harmonics right through the back pressure.


tubetime - attenuators and EQ pedals fix everything remember.
#32
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tubetime - attenuators and EQ pedals fix everything remember.

Ya but only ebay attenuators and MXR 10 band EQs.
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Just for reference, here is a picture of me plugging in my guitar while my amp is running:


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#34
Quote by fly135
It's conceivable that a charge build up on a cap could fry a pup. But most amp schematics I've seen have an input resistor to ground that would eliminate that possibility.


Good that someone brought that up:
Don't let your young dogs get near your amp. Amp manufacturers claim that it's safe, but I've seen it happen too many times...
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Good that someone brought that up:
Don't let your young dogs get near your amp. Amp manufacturers claim that it's safe, but I've seen it happen too many times...

Uh-oh...

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#36
to prevent your pups from exploding you actually have to pull a power tube immediately before changing guitars to discharge the static electricity buildup.
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#38
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Uh-oh...


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