#1
So I wrote a thrash type of riff, and I really want to come up with some solo or lead stuff to go over it, but when I wrote all the notes out, it doesn't follow any key signature that I've learned...Major, minor, melodic minor, harmonic minor...Nothin'. I'm pretty confused as to how to approach soloing and stuff...Any help?

If it means anything, the chords used in the riff are A, A#, C, D, D#, E, F (in alphabetical order, not how they're played in the riff)

Thanks!
#3
Quote by Trivium1224
So I wrote a thrash type of riff, and I really want to come up with some solo or lead stuff to go over it, but when I wrote all the notes out, it doesn't follow any key signature that I've learned...Major, minor, melodic minor, harmonic minor...Nothin'. I'm pretty confused as to how to approach soloing and stuff...Any help?

If it means anything, the chords used in the riff are A, A#, C, D, D#, E, F (in alphabetical order, not how they're played in the riff)

Thanks!



Can you post a recording of you playing the riff?
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#4
Probably some Phrygian type scale because of the flatted 2nd.
Oh yeah.

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#5
Yeah, give me 5 minutes and I'll record it really quickly. But I'll warn you, it's a pretty cheesy 80's style thrash riff
#7
what's more important than anything is the tonal center. what key is it in?

also, i hope you mean "notes", not "chords" i treat power chords as notes, rather than chords, because the fifth is really only there to strengthen the root.
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#9
Isn't that A phrygian in the key of F? I'm still new to theory, but I would guess that.
#10
a minor. the f is fine, you can straight a minor over it.
as for the rest take A minor pentatonic with the flat 5 or something...and just follow that one little run down thing at the end of each time you play the riff. pretty much A minor, but avoid the 6th (F) unless you make it a major 6 (F#) until you hit the big F chord
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#11
oh, i get what you're saying now.

yeah, A minor is fine. just watch out for the Bb and the Eb. other than that, you're good.

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Isn't that A phrygian in the key of F? I'm still new to theory, but I would guess that.

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#12
Thanks guys! I deleted that last post cause I didn't want the guy above it to get confused. Thanks again for all the help!
#13
Its in A.... of the minor flavor


The 1st half of the riff itself is a straight up minor blues.

the 2nd half points toward phrygian.


As I was jamming over it these sounded good to me:

A minor blues
A minor pentatonic
A natural minor (listen for the clashing B, you may choose to avoid it ... or not)
A phrygian
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Last edited by GuitarMunky at Jun 18, 2010,
#17
Quote by sidebuster
Isn't that A phrygian in the key of F? I'm still new to theory, but I would guess that.

A Phrygian shares the same key signatures as F

Take the key signature of A: It has 3 sharps. Phrygian has 4 lowered notes. So key signature with one flat is F.

A B C# D E F# G# A

b2 b3 b6 b7 = A Bb C D E F G A
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