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I was reading a few days ago about plans in the UK to put an automatic 18 (the highest) certification on any film showing smoking. The idea behind the plan is to stop children and young people, who might otherwise be encouraged to start smoking, from being influenced.

So I was thinking: is it really necessary to have people smoking in a film? Does it add realism or should it be censored?
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how do I edit to include a poll?

You can't; you have to check the box as you make the OP.

Ah well.
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Ah well.



TBH I was gonna include a poll but I then decided not to.
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Nothing that happens in real life should be censored.


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The film "Thank You For Smoking" sorta deals with a similar topic.

Anyway, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Censorship, nanny state dumbing down rubbish agh
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Nothing should be censored.

Fixed. Censored.
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Nothing that happens in real life should be censored.


Yeah...Let's expose some young children to sex and brutal murder?
Wait.



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...Only in UK
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Kids do have a habit of copying things they see, but yeah, kids aren't stupid.
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...Only in UK

People in the states have been trying this for at least ten years. You can Google smoke free movies.

Movies and TV shows are where a lot of the cool factor behind smoking comes from. All the badass people do it, the bad guys do it, almost anyone who has sex does.

I would really like to see them have less of it but censorship would cause too much trouble.
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Yeah...Let's expose some young children to sex and brutal murder?



As ****ed up as it sounds sex shouldn't be censored at all, for anyone. It actually does the opposite of what censoring is trying to accomplish.


Anyways I'm not in the UK and I'll be 18 soon so censoring won't affect me at all.
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Yeah...Let's expose some young children to sex and brutal murder?


Yeah! I don't actually know any young children though.
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think about this: if they did that, 101 Dalmatians would be an 18 cert. SERIOUSLY?

Cruella liked the cigs.
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think about this: if they did that, 101 Dalmatians would be an 18 cert. SERIOUSLY?

Cruella liked the cigs.



Yep. Alice In Wonderland would also be given an 18 rating because there's a couple of cigars being smoked.

Come to think of it, most films would end up with 18 certificates.
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Nothing that happens in real life should be censored.

this.

That is such an impressively stupid idea.
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think about this: if they did that, 101 Dalmatians would be an 18 cert. SERIOUSLY?

Cruella liked the cigs.

That's where I think it's a bit off. Bad guys smoking supports the idea the they're bad.

Maybe like: Rated R for sexual content, alcohol and drugs, extreme violence, excessive smoking
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Yep. Alice In Wonderland would also be given an 18 rating because there's a couple of cigars being smoked.

Come to think of it, most films would end up with 18 certificates.


yah. i mean, im going to an extreme there: i mean, smoking isnt exactly good for you, but i think we should focus on banning stuff like Hostel. I had to watch that with some mates: its not just disturbing, its sick. sick violence should be controlled a bit more, but as others have said, violence is a part of real life, and the later you shield kids from it, the harder itll hit them when theyre older, so to speak
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yah. i mean, im going to an extreme there: i mean, smoking isnt exactly good for you, but i think we should focus on banning stuff like Hostel. I had to watch that with some mates: its not just disturbing, its sick. sick violence should be controlled a bit more, but as others have said, violence is a part of real life, and the later you shield kids from it, the harder itll hit them when theyre older, so to speak

I think Hostel is proof of how ****ed up we are. At least Saw had all the crazy twists and stuff. Even then, there's little to the movie except blood and watching people suffer for two hours.

I agree.


And there's a cigarette in Saw!
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I was going to ask what you mean by that, but its probably best if I remain blissfully unaware...
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oh my god! they should make it an 18/R!!!!!

wait....

still, SIX films? really? after the fourth, you know itll be shite. a good film only needs one sequel. maybe two at a push.
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The only source I've seen for this is one council doing it...

Even then, I can't imagine it doing much. I doubt kids go 'OMG HE SMOKED IN THE FILM IVE GOT TO TRY IT', it's more down to mates or whatever doing it.
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oh my god! they should make it an 18/R!!!!!

wait....

still, SIX films? really? after the fourth, you know itll be shite. a good film only needs one sequel. maybe two at a push.

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Anyways I'm not in the UK and I'll be 18 soon so censoring won't affect me at all.

Think of the larger consequences. Film producers want to get as much profit as possible. This means reaching the largest audience. Film makers often edit their films down to be able to get a PG or 15 rating. If this goes through, there will be much less smoking in films.
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And there's a cigarette in Saw!


There's also someone cutting off his own leg with a hack-saw.
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ok so im wrong....=P

still, the new ones arent as good, the original 3 were awesome...im sounding dorky...
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The only source I've seen for this is one council doing it...

Even then, I can't imagine it doing much. I doubt kids go 'OMG HE SMOKED IN THE FILM IVE GOT TO TRY IT', it's more down to mates or whatever doing it.

It's not that dramatic. They see it from an early age and continue to associate it as a cool, accepted thing. By the time people are shoving it down their throats to not smoke then they've already been exposed to it from many different sources. Most kids are smart enough to not do it but others end up trying it because of continued exposure.

My little theory at least. Hypothesis rather.


EDIT:^I think you were off topic. That's right, your parents didn't want you, you just kind of happened.
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