lemon_lime123
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I have a crate v50 amp and me and one of my friends who is a dj was telling how its as loud as his 2000W setup while my amp is only 50W and we were wondering if making it really loud (say volume at 7) could blow the speaker on my amp.
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#2
PA systems are very different from guitar amps. they have to reproduce a lot more frequency range, and therefore it takes more power to do it at the same volume. remember, watts =/= decibels
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Obviously it should be designed to handle what ever the amp can throw at it. and then some. a companys not going to throw a speaker in a combo thats to powerful for it. thats just stupid. plus PA systems and bass amps alike all require alot more power.
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say you have a 25 watt amp and a 50 watt speaker...you could run it pretty loud probably.
say you have a 100 watt guitar amp and a 25 watt speaker. It would blow. but it would probably sound super amazin before it exploded.
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lemon_lime123
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the speaker and amp are both 50W.... does that mean its pretty much impossible to blow my speaker?
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#7
just dont worry about it
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you will never NEED to turn a 50w amp up high enough to blow the speakers, because at 9-10 when it might blow, any venue you're playing WILL have PA equipment. My amp has a 100w speaker and 45w of power, so I'd guess I could quite easily crank it to 10 and have no problems.
lemon_lime123
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good to know... by the way.... my amp makes some random wierd popping sounds by itself. what gives?
lemon_lime123
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no, it almost sounds like my cable is messing up but i know my cable is fine.... The noise is actually louder than the guitar signal, i think something is messing up
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TS: Speakers can generally handle approximately 1.5x their rating before serious, permanent damage is done. You shouldn't worry about blowing a speaker - a company wouldn't put a speaker in an amp that couldn't handle the amp's output.


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Quote by lemon_lime123
no, it almost sounds like my cable is messing up but i know my cable is fine.... The noise is actually louder than the guitar signal, i think something is messing up


Have you tried other cables? You can't rule out the cable until you've tried others and the problem persists.

Also it could be the output jack on your guitar or the input jack on the amp. Have you checked both of those?

Are you using any pedals? There may be a problem with one of them.

It also could be a bad connection between the amp and the speaker.

Try all of the simple things first - check jacks and try other cables. If the problem is still there you know its amp-related.
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Quote by AcousticMirror
say you have a 25 watt amp and a 50 watt speaker...you could run it pretty loud probably.
say you have a 100 watt guitar amp and a 25 watt speaker. It would blow. but it would probably sound super amazin before it exploded.



know what sounds epic?
100 plexi with a 100 watt 4x12 (25 watt greenbacks) and poweramp overdrive.
lemon_lime123
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well i know the cable is good cuz i have tested it with other ones, guitar has never given me problems, i think its something with the amp cuz the power led occasionally flickers with the louder pops
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know what sounds epic?
100 plexi with a 100 watt 8x12 (25 watt greenbacks) and poweramp overdrive.


fixed. that's how the full stack was invented anyways. 100 watt speaker into 4 greenbacks = no pinball wizards. 8 greenbacks = crazy delicious.

man just imagine if the only speakers available at the time were like 15 watt 8 inchers. we'd have crazy stacks.
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#18
Quote by lemon_lime123
well i know the cable is good cuz i have tested it with other ones, guitar has never given me problems, i think its something with the amp cuz the power led occasionally flickers with the louder pops


Could be power tubes.
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Quote by AcousticMirror
fixed. that's how the full stack was invented anyways. 100 watt speaker into 4 greenbacks = no pinball wizards. 8 greenbacks = crazy delicious.

man just imagine if the only speakers available at the time were like 15 watt 8 inchers. we'd have crazy stacks.


nah you'd just have 3 heads and 4 cabs, one being an orange cab loaded with greenbacks i think
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#20
Owner's Manual says it has"Two 6L6GC power vacuum tubes for smooth overdrive sound"
If I replace them with 2 6L6GC tubes, does the amp need to be biased again or can I just pull out the old tubes and pop in the new ones?
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#21
Quote by lemon_lime123
I have a crate v50 amp and me and one of my friends who is a dj was telling how its as loud as his 2000W setup while my amp is only 50W and we were wondering if making it really loud (say volume at 7) could blow the speaker on my amp.

Did he take into account dispersion, overdrive and the fact that loudness does not scale linearly with wattage?
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