#1
So I have recently bought this guitar:






Anyway, as you may have seen in my earlier thread, I bought this when it was advertised as a "1989 ESP Horizon Custom". Before I get excited and do a full write-up about it, I would like to clear up one thing.

Now, as per usual, I like to confirm the origin and date of my guitars, but I can't seem to find the serial number. I have looked over the entire body and I can't find the number anywhere. It does a have a 'Made in Japan' sticker on the back of the headstock though.

Where is the serial number?

I have fired off an email to ESP but I expect their reply to take a fair while.

The guitar looks and feels amazing, and sounds even better. I have been thoroughly impressed by it so far. But the absence of a serial number does make me a bit suspicious.

Does anyone know anything about this sort of guitar, and why I can't find the serial number? Any help is much appreciated.
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#2
maybe it got painted over by the previous owner maybe it is fake, but either way if it plays and sounds good, who cares
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#3
Some companies will put a serial or make number on the back of the neck where it meets the body routing.

I wouldn't recommend taking the neck off, though. If you like it, what's the difference when it was made?
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#4
Well, it's more for peace of mind that anything else. I prefer to know that I have a genuine ESP guitar than a thoroughly convincing knockoff.

I'm pretty sure it hasn't ever been re-painted. And I don't know about the neck theory - like you say, I'm not going to remove the neck.
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#5
I think esp didnt even put a serial on the 80's-90's horizon

edit: if you want to be completely sure, take the neck plate out and look at the neck pocket.
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#6
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I think esp didnt even put a serial on the 80's-90's horizon

Well maybe they didn't. I don't know. It would clear things up a bit if they didn't, but it also seems a bit silly. Maybe the number is in the neck pocket, but that seems an odd place to put it.

Next time I change the strings I'll remove the neck. There are four screws holding it on - I imagine it's just a matter of unscrewing these screws? there's no glue or anything to worry about?
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#7
Its a bolt on right? Just screws. Unless someone (very stupidly) tried to glue the neck in too, but thats extremely unlikely.
#9
Yeah, I assume that there's no glue, I just thought I would ask. The guitar looks absolutely untouched. The current strings are pretty grungy and unpleasant (and quite heavy) so I will get rid of them soon. When I do, I will unscrew the neck and check out the pocket.
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#10
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wow man,what has happened to that FR?looks like a pile of dirt...

Yeah the photo does make it look quite a bit worse than it actually is. But, it is pretty filthy. I gave the body a bit of a clean but the hardware is still pretty bad. When I pull the strings off, I will get a toothbrush into the bridge and get rid of that rubbish.
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