#1
I know, its kinda strange but I've been playing guitar for about 2 years just covering songs without any musc theory (yeah, prety weird)

but in the past months I always wanted to compose my own death/tech death songs baed on my influences (obscura, malmsteen(hehe ok its no technical death metal),necrophagist, the faceless, decapitated, spawn of possession etc) but I have NO CLUE on where/how to start learning music theory

I need some tips/advice on how to start learning the basics to start composing (books recommendations are welcome also!)

Thanks in advance.
#2
Actually that's not strange at all.

Anyway, I suggest this site: musictheory.net
i don't know why i feel so dry
#3
Quote by Eastwinn
Actually that's not strange at all.

Anyway, I suggest this site: musictheory.net


my friend told me that I should start learning the "standards" scales major, pentatonic before aiming the ones used by the tech death, death metal bands or I can aim learning just the scales/chords that I actually gonna use? if yes, which ones?
#4
Quote by the_pestilence
my friend told me that I should start learning the "standards" scales major, pentatonic before aiming the ones used by the tech death, death metal bands or I can aim learning just the scales/chords that I actually gonna use? if yes, which ones?


if you limit yourself to only learning a certain array of scales and chords, you're going to end up breaking your own back later. learn the major scale and chord construction, and you'll be able to work everything out yourself.

if you don't have the background to immediately understand chord construction, go to the site eastwinn gave you and start from the top.
Anfangen ist leicht, Beharren eine Kunst.
#5
Quote by AeolianWolf
if you limit yourself to only learning a certain array of scales and chords, you're going to end up breaking your own back later. learn the major scale and chord construction, and you'll be able to work everything out yourself.

if you don't have the background to immediately understand chord construction, go to the site eastwinn gave you and start from the top.


Thanks,

I'm gonna start learning the major scale then
#6
All western music kind of defaults to either the major scale or the minor scale. Writing melodies with other scales are possible, but the harmony that goes along with them with 99.9% of the time be well modified minor or major harmony. For this reason, learn major scale and minor scale harmony is extremely important. Tech death uses a scale called the diminished scale quite a lot, along with the Phrygian Dominant scale. However they are only used for melody. All harmony in tech death is either chromatic, in the case of harmonized guitar leads, or minor scale harmony. Classical minor harmony conventions play a huge role in tech death too. Unfortunately for you, tech death is one of the more complicated genres to write well.
i don't know why i feel so dry
#8
^That metal site looks pretty decent.

TS, it is very important to analyse songs in the style that you wish to write in. Break down sections to see what makes them sound cool; map out song structures and look at how the instruments play and interact with each other.

Then start writing your own tech, but keep in mind that it is going to take a lot of practice and a lot of songs for you to be a decent songwriter in that style.
#9
this is my favorite lesson on this site. i learned alot from it..iv only read it 2 times.. i need to go over it again.

it covers just about everything for someone like you and me.

learning theory really helps to figure out what your playing also..i know a lot of folks that don't know theory think it takes the music out of it...but it really doesn't

take what you make up..apply that to the theory you learned...its holy...LOL
its a lot of work..but well worth it.

also learning music by ear helped me to play better sounding solos

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/for_beginners/learning_music_theory_the_beginning.html
#10
Wow guys,

Thanks for the massive support/help!

Now what I need is patience, dedication and read read read (:

Thanks, alot!
#11
Pestilence, you gotta check out this site. No it is not porn. ANUS stands for "American Nihilistic Underground Society". This site has alot of analytical info about every sub-genre of metal. Nothing about music theory, but you could use the site to point yourself in the right direction of music theory learning. Let us know if you like it.

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/styles/types/