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Lets say you meet someone. You think they're cool, they think you're cool. You guys talk, and become friends. Then you become what you'd consider "a pretty good friend." Someone you're close with, really like and all that shit.

Then lets say you find out he believes something. It's not any kind of action. It's just something in his mind that he believes in or supports. It could be something like creationism, maybe he thinks nothing is wrong with rape (though just assume he isn't a rapist), maybe he's very racist, maybe he supports gay rights, maybe he supports marijuana legalization, or perhaps he supports neo-nazism etc. (I don't think all of these ideas are bad. Don't freak out and turn this into a drug debate thread.)

Is there any kind of idea that a good friend could just simply and only believe in that would make you end your friendship with him/her? His actual actions can be totally fine, but I'm just talking about a belief.

Also just to make the thread more interesting, lets not consider beliefs that definitely threaten your security or involve you in that sort of way. As obviously most of us wouldn't want to be friends with someone who thought we should get raped, killed and mutilated.

Anyways, I can't really think of anything that would make me completely end a friendship with someone. If I found out a very good friend of mine was a strong supporter of neo-nazism or something along those lines, I still don't know whether or not I'd completely end a friendship. I'd probably have less contact with them, though.
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I don't think I could be friends with someone who believed in ghosts.

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#3
Racism, anti-gay rights, supporting Neo Nazism, being anti abortion, supporting death penalty for petty crimes like weed (**** you nadia!) etc - I don't need much reason to hate people, so these kind of things just help along the way.

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#5
"I believe you're an idiot who I no longer wish to associate with" would probably do the trick.
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#7
nah, I personally don't really mind any beliefs... most christians do though.. stupid assholes won't even hear what I believe in they just say: "you're going to hell" and a dude told me that my blasphemous will lead to my murder.... strange
#10
Basically anyone who holds one or more of the key beliefs of fascism for me.
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"I believe you're an idiot who I no longer wish to associate with" would probably do the trick.


I lol'd.

But no, not really. The rape one would worry me a little, and some would make me a little more cautious around them, but it wouldn't stop me being friends with them.
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#12
I can't think of anything really, but if one of my friends was into bestiality or child porn, that might do the trick.
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#13
One of my best friends is a creationist, whilst im a geologist which basicly involves me studying everything his beliefs go against. Doesn't affect our friendship.
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I really don't like talking to people who believe in the supernatural for very long. It's tiring.

You might say that we're supposed to base this on the idea that they act just fine, but they really don't. Because they believe X to be truth, their actions are shaped by it in some very annoying ways.
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I lol'd.

But no, not really. The rape one would worry me a little, and some would make me a little more cautious around them, but it wouldn't stop me being friends with them.



One of my best friends, a girl, says that rape isn't all that bad and it would be better than being robbed or murdered


EDIT: your definition of two is wrong, you need to put 'whole number' and too can also mean in excess.

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#18
being a racist/nazi

other shit like being anti-abortion or religious would just make me lose pretty much all respect for them
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#20
If they thought I was a sausage roll I might find it a bit too weird.
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#22
If I found out one of my friends liked St. Anger, I wouldn't just stop being friends, I'd cause them the same damage physically to them that record did to me aurally and emotionally.
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#23
I'm a born muslim and my best friend is the biggest atheist.. I have known him for what, thirteen years now!

I listen to Slayer and political stuff (RATM), and zen music. He listens to gangsta-rap/hiphop. And we're cool with eachother.

You know, being friends isn't about what you believe in, or support. It's about treating eachother like normal human beings, and a little more cause you're still friends.
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#24
Religious beliefs are OK in my book, even though I'm an atheist. I can appreciate that they have their opinions just as I have mine. Just so long as they are simply 'opinions' and go no further.

People who wish to infringe on other's lives and freedoms based on their religious beliefs, such as anti-homosexual laws or the banning of the teaching of certain sciences, are another thing entirely.
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I don't think there's really a 'belief' as such, but I'm very opposed to drugs and drinking (straightedge), so I don't like seeing my friends do that.

I saw my girlfriend smoking on webcam once, I immediately blocked her and didn't talk to her for a few hours
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I have a close friend who believes that she commonly see's UFOS and she also believes in ghosts, I just see it as a chance to non aggressively argue with them about it.
I really couldn't care less what she believes in because friendship is based on more than things like beliefs and such.

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#27
I don't know if this is in-topic with the thread but after someone told me "friends are comedians" i started doubting a lot of my friends' worth. I realized i only had a couple of real friends. It sure ruined some of my friendships.
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#29
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This actually. I respect being able to defend your beliefs a million times more than simply having them because you can.
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Yeah, I'm not often friends with retarded people, and as I've learned on UG creationists are more retarded than retarded people.

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No, I'm good friends with a creationist who thinks abortion is murder and anything that isn't blues is garbage. He also tries to give me dating advice, and advice about gigs. But he's a virgin while I'm not, and I've been gigging for 4 years now.

So why the fuck am I friends with him again?

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I don't think there's really a 'belief' as such, but I'm very opposed to drugs and drinking (straightedge), so I don't like seeing my friends do that.

I saw my girlfriend smoking on webcam once, I immediately blocked her and didn't talk to her for a few hours


While I can kinda see your point, I think a more realistic approach should be about acting responsibly.

People can drink and take other drugs responsibly, just as people can do other dangerous activities responsibly.

A person drinking a cup of coffee to wake themselves up in the morning is using drugs fairly responsibly, a person who does a couple of lines of speed to wake themselves up in the morning isn't.
A person who has a couple of beers at a party is acting responsibly, a person who has a dozen or so beers at a party isn't.

In my opinion, if we are opposed to people taking drugs and drinking because of the likelyhood of them causing 'personal' harm to themselves, then we really ought to have the same opinions on skatebording, sky diving, rock climbing, bungee jumping, contact sports, ect, because the potential for personal harm is increased during such activities.
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While I can kinda see your point, I think a more realistic approach should be about acting responsibly.

People can drink and take other drugs responsibly, just as people can do other dangerous activities responsibly.

A person drinking a cup of coffee to wake themselves up in the morning is using drugs fairly responsibly, a person who does a couple of lines of speed to wake themselves up in the morning isn't.
A person who has a couple of beers at a party is acting responsibly, a person who has a dozen or so beers at a party isn't.

In my opinion, if we are opposed to people taking drugs and drinking because of the likelyhood of them causing 'personal' harm to themselves, then we really ought to have the same opinions on skatebording, sky diving, rock climbing, bungee jumping, contact sports, ect, because the potential for personal harm is increased during such activities.

Yeah. I know the way I react is slightly extreme. It just affects and upsets me a bit more because I've lost family members because of that stuff. I'm not saying my friends can't do any of those things, I would never try and enfore my way of thinking on anyone. Just that if they want to do it, I'd rather they didn't do it around me.

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Yeah. I know the way I react is slightly extreme. It just affects and upsets me a bit more because I've lost family members because of that stuff. I'm not saying my friends can't do any of those things, I would never try and enfore my way of thinking on anyone. Just that if they want to do it, I'd rather they didn't do it around me.



I can appreciate where you're coming from, I've lost several friends to overdoses. But I wouldn't shun someone for doing drugs around me, just as I wouldn't shun someone who skatebords in my presence, even though a childhood friend of mine lost his life when he fell off one and banged his head.
#34
People who judge people constantly piss me off.

I straight up tell people that I hate that shit.
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#35
I've got a 'friend' who was my best friend upto the age of about 14. He turned into a racist and a hardline BNP member. I still see him in the pub sometimes and he's ok to chat too, can be a really funny guy but once he gets anywhere near politics we just enter into a massive conversation of solid fuck.
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#37
I probably couldn't be close friends with a true, self-declared racist. Like, who wouldn't attend a party with black people, etc. I've never met anyone like that, though.

Creationism is different... it wouldn't make me end a friendship and I'd gladly debate over it, but I probably couldn't become friends with that person in the first place. It's just too much of a proof of ignorance and lack of proper education to me.

Also, discovering that a very close friend is actually gay would definitely make me feel uncomfortable.
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#38
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I don't think there's really a 'belief' as such, but I'm very opposed to drugs and drinking (straightedge), so I don't like seeing my friends do that.

I saw my girlfriend smoking on webcam once, I immediately blocked her and didn't talk to her for a few hours


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Shut the fuck up. I'm not straightedge, but I get sick and tired of people laughing at kids that are. It's a respectable lifestyle choice and it hurts absolutely nobody. And I'd be pretty upset if i caught my gf smoking, too.
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Shut the fuck up. I'm not straightedge, but I get sick and tired of people laughing at kids that are. It's a respectable lifestyle choice and it hurts absolutely nobody. And I'd be pretty upset if i caught my gf smoking, too.


"I immediately blocked her and didn't talk to her for a few hours"

There's a logical and mature response

Really, what an idiot. If someone pulled that shit on me I'd break up with them. Go have your tantrums with somebody else.

I know a few Christians and Muslims but if someone was constantly trying to convert me I don't think I could be friends with them.

I also severed some friendships when I discovered some of my friends were racist and voted BNP in an election. Although another of my more recent friends did, and after he had explained himself I just thought "huh, you arse, that's no reason to vote for facists" and moved on with my life, we're still friends

I know I have some views that people think are a bit peculiar, so I don't judge other people for theirs, as long as they don't hate anyone and aren't shoving anything down my throat about it. I am friends with some people who voted Conservative, and my oldest childhood friend aspires to be a housewife as she thinks it's her role. We're cool, we have just learnt it's best to avoid talking about it
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