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#1
So I finally got an overdrive pedal (might make a NPD if I'm up for it), now I'm in need of a wah. Now I don't know much about them, other than the fact that they sound awesome and I want to wah up my solos. There's so many wah's out there and I don't know what to pick. So what I'm going to do is just post youtube vids, and tell you the time of wah usage. Whatever part I show you, I want that wah sound. Thanks in advance:

BTBAM - Obfuscation, around 5:35 and beyond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OspGO0YVeRI

The Black Dahlia Murder - Everything Went Black, around 2:00. Pretty much the whole solo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BasoXQhcUQ

Heaven and Hell - Rock and Roll Angel, around 3:50, the wah comes in later
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuamuBe7Y_8

Lamb of God - Pathetic, around 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG6KT6Rzi9M

I have more, but they sound the same to me, so hopefully you guys get the idea of what sound I want to get. Also I don't know if pedals react differently depending on the amount of distoriton; I want a wah for some smooth jazzy stuff too, so keep that in mind.

EDIT: HOW CAN I FORGET??

Dream Theater - A Nightmare To Remember, around 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB_JsTmujIU
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Last edited by larrytheguitar at Jun 26, 2010,
#2
What's your price limit? A Dunlop rack wah is IMO the best for modern metal wah stuff like that. A Teese RMC3 will be close though and IMO sounds much better for anything else. Iommi uses an old Parapedal and uses only parts of the sweep depending on what he wants. Really no way to replicate that unless you want to drop some serious coin on an original or reissue on top of another for the other stuff.
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#3
For BTBAM wah, Paul Waggoner uses an Ibanez Weeping Demon.

For a Petrucci-ish wah, (I just researched this yesterday) I saw a lot of people saying the Crybaby from Hell and the 535q were very close without spending $500 on the rack wah that he uses.

I'd go for the 535q as is seems to be pretty versatile. Probably what I'm going to get once I get the money.
Last edited by Ignite at Jun 26, 2010,
#4
i got the dimebag crybaby. sadly its crap, so theres on you dont want. dunlop originals are good i hear.
#5
I'm thinking of the Dunlop Original Crybaby. Will that suit the parts I listed?
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#6
Quote by larrytheguitar
I'm thinking of the Dunlop Original Crybaby. Will that suit the parts I listed?

I just borrowed my friends Original Crybaby last night and i'm disappointed.

It colors the tone a TON. I also think there's way too much of a sweep, and it sucks that it has no adjustments at all. I can't really get anything to sound like the videos you posted (I play a lot of the same stuff, and actually I can get an alright Nightmare to Remember wah sound like the video you posted, but it's such a classic rock sounding riff, which is really what the original crybaby is good for)
#7
That sucks. So what other affordable, non rack wah's can suit me?
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#8
The Ibanez WD7 is $98 +$6 shipping at Amazon. It's got 2 control knobs and a volume knob to where you can shape your own sound. It'd definitely nail the the Obfuscation wah sound, and I'd say it's your best bet I don't think you're going to find anything amazing under $100.

Is there a way for you to try out the Original Dunlop? There's a chance you may like it, I just know I don't. It COULD be what I'm playing though (various amp sims and a crappy peavey rage)

Also, Mark Morton of LOG apparently uses a Crybaby Wylde wah, if that helps any. I've never heard/played one.
#9
Nope, I'm going to have to make a blind buy. The guitar stores around here don't allow you to try out pedals, and wah pedals cost like 60-70 bucks extra.
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#11
I have the WD7. I don't like it.

To me, the wah loses its quality on high gain. Great for low-gain though.
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#12
How about the Ernie Ball wah?
Or the Budda Budwah?
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#13
So I guess there's no wah that everyone can agree is awesome. What should I do
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#14
I really liked the Vox Big Bad Wah and Keeler Stretch wah based off of sound clips on youtube. The first is pretty cheap but the Keeler is USD$300 on PGS.
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#15
The Zakk Wylde wah sounded awesome with distortion, my friend has one. I decided to buy the Kirk Hammett not because I'm some fanboy (although I do love Metallica!) but because it sounded gnarly and awesome. It has a pretty dramatic sweep though and its no Jimi Hendrix Wah for clean stuff but I always love using it, in moderation!
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#16
the original crybaby, as it stands stock, is in general a pretty crappy wah. however, there are a TON of mods out there for it that can turn it into something special, but you have to be knowledgeable and willing to work for it to achieve that.

do you have a specific price range? in general from what ive heard, the 535q is likely the most versatile wah you can get for the money, and i believe its in the 130-150 range, not sure about the exact price but it should be somewhere in there
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#17
Fulltone Clyde Deluxe?!!?

Pretty amazing wah if you ask me.
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#18
you gotta get to a store and try them out. Everyone has different opinions.

I personally love the following wahs:

Dunlop 535Q
Dimebag Crybaby
Dunlop Jerry Cantrell
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#19
you cant go wrong with an original cry baby. it might not be the best, but more guitarists have used it than any othe wah. it certainly isnt bad. the proverbial, benchmark from which all other wahs are judged from.

if i could change mine, i would make it true bypass and maybe have a sweep adjustment. other than that i cant complain.

plus, its built like a brick....and weights about as much as one too. sturdy.
#20
has anyone used the Jerry Cantrell Cry Baby? Hes one of my favorite guitarists and I love his sound but I really haven't heard much about this wah.
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#21
Quote by redick4ulous
has anyone used the Jerry Cantrell Cry Baby? Hes one of my favorite guitarists and I love his sound but I really haven't heard much about this wah.


I really enjoy it. just listen to man in the box and there it is.
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#23
TS, here. So the best choice for me would probably be the Crybaby 535Q?
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#24
Morley bad horsie is a decent wah,Ibanez wheeping demon is also pretty good.I didn't care for the dunlop original or 535q both were meh sounding IMO.
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#26
TS don't go mental over this, there have just been like an entire page of recommendations! At the end of the day people can't tell you which wah to get it's completely subjective, for example one guy highly recommended the dimebag wah and one guy said it sucked it is absolutely individual taste!
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#27
Go try em out! There's gotta be some guitar shop over there in Japan.
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#28
Quote by HellBoy9393
Go try em out! There's gotta be some guitar shop over there in Japan.


Can't try pedals out, though.
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#29
Quote by larrytheguitar
Can't try pedals out, though.


Wow that's lame..
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#31
Wah's what? Who is he, some Chinese guy?
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#32
Quote by Kanthras
Wah's what? Who is he, some Chinese guy?


Forgive my unnecessary apostrophe, asshole. I just thought the word "wahs" looked strange.

And to the guy above Kanthras, I really have no knowledge on modding and things like that.
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Last edited by larrytheguitar at Jun 28, 2010,
#33
Quote by larrytheguitar
Forgive my unnecessary apostrophe, asshole. I just thought the word "wahs" looked strange.

It's just a joke, no offence intended.
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#35
Quote by Kanthras
It's just a joke, no offence intended.


No problem

Quote by denied
Crybaby mods are some of THE most popular. It really isn't that difficult, just learn to use a soldering Iron. You can ask for advice in the pedalboard thread, they won't bite I promise.


... I can't use a soldering iron I'm really the worst person you can ask to mod something. I guess I can learn..
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#38
I've heard good things about the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe, saving up for one now.
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