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today in philosophy, while discussing Nietzsche, we talked about history, and whether it's actually useful or not. what do you guys think? personally, i love history, but i can see why some people would find it useless up to a certain level, like math or science.

pit, do you think history is useful?
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Without history, humanity is doomed to repeat its mistakes.
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History puts the present in context. So yes, hugely useful.
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today in philosophy, while discussing Nietzsche, we talked about history, and whether it's actually useful or not. what do you guys think? personally, i love history, but i can see why some people would find it useless up to a certain level, like math or science.

pit, do you think history is useful?

Wat? Math and science are way more important than history, they make technology. And some parts of history can be useless; why does it matter who ran against Millard Fillmore?
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#8
Chomsky said (I think it was Chomsky) something like "People don't like to learn history; it teaches you too much". Or something like that. So yeah, history is definitely useful.

Also, being as your a philosophy student, fancy recommending me some good philosophy books to read?
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Wat? Math and science are way more important than history, they make technology. And some parts of history can be useless.


Every scientific endeavour of the last century backwards comes equally under history as it does science.
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Every scientific endeavour of the last century backwards comes equally under history as it does science.

History tells us when science was used/researched/discovered, science itself tells us how the world works. The latter is more important for human advancement.
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it's only useful for people who actually want a job in politics or whatever else involves planning stuff on behalf of humanity. for those who don't want that, it's utterly useless.

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#14
Yes as long as you don't take into account that the books are written from a political stand point.
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Wat? Math and science are way more important than history, they make technology. And some parts of history can be useless; why does it matter who ran against Millard Fillmore?

i meant up to a certain point, depending on your chosen profession. i doubt i'll ever use calculus very often, if at all, in my life, so would it be the same for history?

and another thing brought up is, if you look at history, we kind of repeat the same mistakes anyways, so what good is looking back?
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Imagine a civilization that doesn't know where it came from. We already are ****ed up enough, that would make it much worse.
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History tells us when science was used/researched/discovered, science itself tells us how the world works. The latter is more important for human advancement.

It'd all be pretty useless if you couldn't document it.
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Yes as long as you don't take into account that the books are written from a political stand point.


One of the biggest parts of studying history is studying these different viewpoints, at least once you study it at a decent level. It's not all just this shit happened at this time because this bloke did some shit.
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History tells us when science was used/researched/discovered, science itself tells us how the world works. The latter is more important for human advancement.


Without context science is neutered of a huge part of it's use. Don't presume it to be some omnipotent study that carries the world on it's back. It's just as subjective to history or philosophy as they are to it.
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