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#1
This is something that has kept me asleep at night plenty of times.

To which extent does it pay off to be nice, and where does it start to appear as weakness?

I would say most of us have been taught to be polite and respect others. However, there is always an asshole. And I don't know about you, but this asshole always seem to get away with everything or getting further than the 'niceys'.

Also, it seems to be a Golden Rule, that, the nicer you are to someone, the less they respect you. So where's the point in that?
#2
Yes, the point of not being an asshole.
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#3
I'm a nice guy.

It's not in my nature to be a dick for no reason.
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This is something that has kept me asleep at night plenty of times.


Keep thinking about it ^^
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#6
Uh...Having friends? People being nice to you in return? I would not want to live in a world where everyone is an asshole to everyone else.

Although it is often the case that assholes get what they want because of their pushy attitude, but there's no reason why you can't achieve the same while being polite. Be polite, but firm. It is possible, you know.

I don't know how to do it, but I'm getting there.
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It's in my nature to be a dick for no reason. I try to be nice. Sometimes.
#7
You run into less conflicts if you're nice to someone. For example, I could answer your question, or I could start a useless flame war with you. Which would be more productive?
#9
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Also, it seems to be a Golden Rule, that, the nicer you are to someone, the less they respect you. So where's the point in that?


It's not true. When you are always trying to be as nice as you can and you find the other person who practises being as nice as they can, you have found your soul mate/true love. Relationship with that person would work out perfectly. I've been there, done that.

Also other people will like you more and respect you more. If they don't act nice themselves it's because they are just too comfortable with being rude. It doesn't mean you have done something wrong. Don't take it personally.
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#10
Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.
#13
You can be nice without being a total cheeseball. Nice non-cheeseballs get farther than either.

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#14
There's a difference between being too nice and being respectful and polite. You can do nasty things respectfully. You don't get taken advantage of if you're confident and dignified, it's got nothing to do with niceness.
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#15
If you are nice to people, they are likely to want you around them. To accomplish this, they will likely be nice to you. This in turn means that you can expect help when facing a problem and an increase in opportunities to mate.
#16
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Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.

This.

Assholes usually end up in the deepest of shit.
#17
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Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.


Sigged! That's a nice statement.
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Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.
#18
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Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.


I agree with this too. But the nice people are more likely to be blessed with finding true love.
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Well said.
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#21
Whenever I see someone do something nice, it makes me happy to see that the world isn't totally shit. Why would I not try to be a part of that? In a ridiculously cheesy cliche it's always nice to have even a little bit more love in the world
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Whenever I see someone do something nice, it makes me happy to see that the world isn't totally shit. Why would I not try to be a part of that? In a ridiculously cheesy cliche it's always nice to have even a little bit more love in the world


Exactly.
#23
Generally nice guys finish last.
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#24
I'm a nice person, and no one really likes me that much outside of my friends. Everyone I'm acquaintances with thinks I'm a phuckin weirdy.
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Generally nice guys finish last.

Last in what?

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#28
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Generally nice guys finish last.

If by finish last you mean I'm still doing her after you're done diddling yourself then yes.

I'm always nice. I've never been accused of being weak.
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#30
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If you are nice to people, they are likely to want you around them. To accomplish this, they will likely be nice to you. This in turn means that you can expect help when facing a problem and an increase in opportunities to mate.


YES
#31
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Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.


+1

I don't think dickheads necessarily are more successful. It also depends on how you define success. Having friends, family and people who like you is more important than scoring a promotion by backstabbing or maybe sleeping with a hot drunk chick once at uni. People can and do judge each other on their characters.
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#32
In my experience nice people generally hang out with nice people and assholes hang out with assholes.

Come on, take a guess. Where is there the least backstabbing?
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#33
Here is my input since I am always labed as the nice guy (depending on which people too).

I try to be nice to many people as possible, but I do not let people try to walk over me. The rule of fist is that you can be nice as long as you are not taken advantage of....then you use your goddamn fist, thus the rule of fist.
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#34
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In my experience nice people generally hang out with nice people and assholes hang out with assholes.

Come on, take a guess. Where is there the least backstabbing?

Backstabbing. Assholes.


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#35
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Assholes aren't really more successful, it's just that they yell the loudest, therefore you notice them more than the nice people.

this
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There's a difference between being too nice and being respectful and polite. You can do nasty things respectfully. You don't get taken advantage of if you're confident and dignified, it's got nothing to do with niceness.

this
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If you are nice to people, they are likely to want you around them. To accomplish this, they will likely be nice to you. This in turn means that you can expect help when facing a problem and an increase in opportunities to mate.

and this.


the more people you're nice to the more people there will be who are nice to you. it's beneficial to yourself to be nice to more people so that you have more people being nice back, this system benefits everyone who isn't an asshole, and the assholes alienate themselves from it. while they may reap a short term benefit by not wasting time being nice, in the long term when they need help they're fucked.


and there's a difference between being nice and being too nice. you don't have to show weakness to be nice, and you don't have to be nice all the time, just don't be an asshole about it.
#36
Being good is its own reward. If you can act like an arsehole to everyone around you and still feel ok about yourself, then you're not being clever, you're an arsehole. Simple as.
#37
Nah, the common asshole never gets anywhere in life. Ever seen the houses of the people on jackass? Not very successful, if you ask me.
#38
I think sometimes (not all the time) when you do something nice for someone, eventually it'll come back to you. Maybe you paid for a girl's lunch because she forgot her wallet then the next time you see her she might be with her friends and she'll tell them how nice you were which may get you laid.
#39
You're confusing nice with pushover and asshole with strong-willed


See, assholes are always strong-willed, but not all strong-willed people are assholes.

All pushovers are nice, but not all nice people a pushovers.
That's why it seems like nice people are screwed and assholes seem okay, find some sort of happy medium.

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