#1
I'm going to buy a new tube amp, i'm having trouble deciding on what though.. I've been a marshall fan my whole life (Zeppelin, Hendrix, etc.) but their rep here seems rather lackluster. I play mostly classic/alt/heavy rock, with good cleans, not too much metal but I like versatility. i'm looking for an all-around great amp that I can use for gigs and band practice. i also have a tubescreamer for a boost..

my budget is ~$900
what i've found so far is:

Marshall JCM2000 TSL122 -$800- http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1797276752.html

Marshall JCM900 Dual Hi Gain Reverb Head -$400- http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1816480919.html

Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 head/cab -$800- http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/msg/1816136310.html

Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 combo -$300-
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/msg/1817310033.html

Hiwatt D50L head -$700-
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1818340748.html

Mesa Boogie Heartbreaker head -$800- no footswitch
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1818556767.html

Mesa Boogie Dual Rec Tremoverb -$700- no footswitch
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1818037161.html

Mesa Boogie F-50 1x12 combo -$700-
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1820264023.html

what do you guys think?
#5
Quote by WtrPlyr
You can still get the Marshall sound without buying Marshall.



I don't really agree with this. You can get CLOSE to the Marshall sound with other amps, but you will never truly get that classic Marshall tone unless you play through a Marshall. For example, last night I tried out an Egnator Tweaker. It's all-tube, pretty cheap (~$500 I think), and models the classic Fender, Marshall, and Vox tones with the flick of a switch. It was extremely versatile, but I found the tone lacking. It did a pretty good job of trying to be a Marshall, and it even came pretty close to it. But it just wasn't a Marshall.

Try checking out the Egnator line, or any micro-tube amp. They're great for bedroom playing and small gigs. I just bought a Vox Night Train myself. I fell in love with it the second I plugged into it. If you want that marshall tone, check out the Marshall Haze line. It's a micro-tube line made by Marshall. Small wattage tube amps that are much cheaper and practical than their big-lines like JCM, JTM, etc.
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#6
Quote by Jimmy_Page_Zep
I don't really agree with this. You can get CLOSE to the Marshall sound with other amps, but you will never truly get that classic Marshall tone unless you play through a Marshall.

Most modern Marshalls don't sound like the "classic Marshall".


For example, the Haze you pointed out? Sounds like shit.
#7
Quote by forsaknazrael
Most modern Marshalls don't sound like the "classic Marshall".


For example, the Haze you pointed out? Sounds like shit.


I agree they don't have nearly the tone they used to, but unless you're willing to drop thousands of dollars for a real vintage Marshall amp, you're not going to get that classic tone.

TBH, I haven't tried the Haze yet, but they don't sound THAT bad from online demos. I didn't claim that it sounded like that "classic Marshall" tone, it was just a suggestion in case he was interested.
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#8
Are the JCMs really that bad/overrated? people seem to be able to tweak them pretty nicely for reviews/demos.

i'm a little more interested in marshall distortion than the mesa's, but i love fender's cleans... but then again i've only tried the DSL100 and TSL firsthand (my local guitar center is very limited on quantity/quality of amps stocked, there's only like 2 Mesa's in the whole store and they're both $2k+)

i'm really looking for a hendrix/david gilmour style tone
would a fender hot rod deluxe or dsl100 + my tubescreamer nail those tones? or are there really better options?
#10
Quote by Jimmy_Page_Zep
I agree they don't have nearly the tone they used to, but unless you're willing to drop thousands of dollars for a real vintage Marshall amp, you're not going to get that classic tone.

Wrong.
#11
Try looking into Traynors. The YCS50 would be great for what you are looking for tone wise and it is in your price range.
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#12
I would suggest Mesa. The JCM2000's really suck compared to the 800 and 900 imo. I would stay away from them. And the 900 is a little overrated if you ask me. An 800 would obviously be better than both, but I really think Mesa would be the way to go in this situation. Maybe if you could find a good deal on a Double Rectifier.

I've always been a big jcm 800 fan, but after playing one compared to a mesa triple rec, I like the mesa a lot better.

I hear old traynors are awesome as well
maybe check out Egnator, Orange, Engl, Fender, etc.
Last edited by handbanana at Jul 1, 2010,
#13
the new marshalls don't do anything of the old marshall tone. not the haze, not the 2000 dsl or tsl, not anything.

plenty of companies do nail the old school sound
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#14
Quote by Jimmy_Page_Zep
I agree they don't have nearly the tone they used to, but unless you're willing to drop thousands of dollars for a real vintage Marshall amp, you're not going to get that classic tone.

TBH, I haven't tried the Haze yet, but they don't sound THAT bad from online demos. I didn't claim that it sounded like that "classic Marshall" tone, it was just a suggestion in case he was interested.



You don't need to drop THOUSANDS, if you know what you're looking for.
Tons of clones do it just a good, or usually, better. How? Same circuit, but often with improved quality parts, or just more consistent parts. Old Marshalls weren't magic, and they weren't all consistent.

Quote by LuckyDIM
Are the JCMs really that bad/overrated? people seem to be able to tweak them pretty nicely for reviews/demos.

i'm a little more interested in marshall distortion than the mesa's, but i love fender's cleans... but then again i've only tried the DSL100 and TSL firsthand (my local guitar center is very limited on quantity/quality of amps stocked, there's only like 2 Mesa's in the whole store and they're both $2k+)

i'm really looking for a hendrix/david gilmour style tone
would a fender hot rod deluxe or dsl100 + my tubescreamer nail those tones? or are there really better options?

Did you check out demos of the Heartbreaker? With EL34s, it gets pretty Marshally.

HRD + TS is not a good option, IMO.
#15
the JCM 2000 seriously might be the most overrated amp ever, and i'm a big marshall fan
Last edited by handbanana at Jul 1, 2010,
#17
The traynors are really appealing.. same with the tweaker but I need something 30-50W

What's the difference between the YCV50 blue and the YCS50? has anybody tried these or can give me some insight on their tone/style/preference?