Poll: Which one to buy?
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View poll results: Which one to buy?
SG
12 22%
Dot
11 20%
Strat
32 58%
Voters: 55.
#1
I want to get a new guitar in a reasonable price that can cope for my summer live shows.
Three guitars were recommended to me by friends and I would like some input in which one I should choose.I mainly play alternative in my band but I also learn blues and funk.
The guitars are:
Epiphone SG G-400 Maestro Deluxe EB Limited Edition Ebony


Epiphone The Dot Ebony


Fender Squier '50s Classic Vibe Strat MN Olympic White



I just can't decide.
Last edited by KlinikaNekros at Jul 1, 2010,
#2
well all of them give a different sound...so if you are deciding basing your opinion on looks...i would say either the strat or the SG
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#4
that strat is all kinds of sexy. and I've heard good things about the CV series (I would also look into used MIM strats).

I played an Epiphone SG once (not sure if it was the same model). it was trash (although the whammy bar is nice). The Dot is pretty sweet looking (I have a weakness for hollowbody guitars), but the strat will serve your needs better.
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#5
I'm not really basing my opinion on looks,all three of them are beautiful but I just don't know what's better for me sound-wise.The thing is,I haven't concluded to a single style of playing yet,and I feel that my choice on guitar will have a big effect on it.I have an LP replica but I'm not really happy with the way it feels on my hand and the sound's a tad too hard for my taste.
#6
Quote by KlinikaNekros
I'm not really basing my opinion on looks,all three of them are beautiful but I just don't know what's better for me sound-wise.The thing is,I haven't concluded to a single style of playing yet,and I feel that my choice on guitar will have a big effect on it.I have an LP replica but I'm not really happy with the way it feels on my hand and the sound's a tad too hard for my taste.

i would go for the strat, the squier VM series is much higher quality then other squiers. one more thing to consider is that with the 3 single coils you have the best of two worlds.
with the selector switch in the 4th, and 2nd positions your using the single coils as humbuckers.
also the strat is possibly one of the most versatile guitars in existence.
#7
That SG is not only gorgeous, it's the best player there. You REALLY don't have a choice.
#8
The real Gibson ES-335's are great guitars, and you can get virtually any sound you want out of them. I don't know how the Dots stack up, but I'd imagine they sound and play like the official knock-offs they are.

Of those three, I'd probably go with the Strat. I personally think it's an utterly inept design (topic for a whole other thread), but apart from the really cheap low-end Squiers, Fender tends to have pretty solid quality control. Best thing you can do, though, is play them all for yourself and decide which one you like best. Lot of variation, even between individual guitars.
#9
They're all about equal in terms of objective quality. They are, however, entirely different in terms of both tone and feel, both of which are completely subjective and down to personal preference; nobody on the internet can tell you which neck will feel better for your hands or whether you prefer solid body tone to semi-hollow, humbuckers to single coils or fixed bridges to vibratos.

You might as well be asking us to advise you whether a cat or a dog makes for a better pet. Different strokes for different folks. From a purely technical, theoretical and objective point of view, they're entirely equal.
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#11
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Oh, those Squiers won't stand up to live playing.
Tell that to the three people I know who regularly use stock Classic Vibe Squiers for gigs. "Live playing" is no different from playing in your bedroom, at least in terms of how a guitar holds up. It's not like Squier guitars spontaneously combust when they are taken on stage. Arguably they are more suited to live playing than a more expensive MIM Fender is, since forty-nine times out of fifty nobody in the audience will be able to tell the difference between a Fender and a Squier guitar, both in terms of sound and appearance; you might as well save yourself some cash. Unless you're playing to over a thousand people, you really don't need anything more than a guitar that is in good playable condition, stays in tune well and is grounded properly. Nobody will be impressed by your all-original 1956 Fender Telecaster or your PRS Private Stock when you're playing in a bar to sixteen people.

Either way, the Classic Vibe series of Squiers are basically MIM Fender Standard models but with better stock electronics. The often over-hyped Vintage Modified series are certainly shit, but the Classic Vibes are far from it.
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#12
IMO that strat pickguard is fugly. I'd go with the SG. Or find a MIM strat used.
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#13
Sg, its the most versitle and IMO the shexiest, ive had my eye on that Sg, too bad it aint southpaw
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#14
i would go for the DOT. i just sold an SSS strat, they are much less versatile than most people think (in my opinion, that is.) I find they just can't handle anything heavy at all. As soon as you add moderate gain, you gotta start rollin tone knobs off, and in a way you close your cleans by doing that. the dot on the other hand will have your bridge bucker for rockin out to ALT stuff, and then flip er to the neck for blues and funky stuff. and hollowbodies ooze classiness, i find.
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#15
If you're going to drop 300 for a strat, hop on your local craigslist and find yourself a used MIM. You can probably find one for the same price, and it'll be a step up from the classic vibe series.

I think Strats are crazy versatile - I play all classic rock and blues on my MIM, but I can pass it over to a buddy who can slam out metal on it without missing a beat.

That being said, I've always thought semi-hollow epis/gibsons are all kinds of sexy. Maybe check out the Epiphone Casinos too? I hear good things about those.
#16
here is my advice: disregard any advice that anyone has given you about which guitar to specifically pick and go to a guitar store and try all three of these and every other guitar that appeals to you. Then, once you pick your favorites, look at the prices and eliminate any that are out of your range. Then, try the ones that are left again, then after narrowing them down to less than 5, pick which one you think looks the purdiest and has the best price. Nobody on this thread but you knows what you want in a guitar, since you have no style yet. Probably over half of the people i know started with a Strat of some kind, or something similar to a strat (Ibanez starters). That doesn't mean you have to do that too, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't either. Honestly, nobody on here can give you solid advice on this. Guitar is much to personal for that. If you had a style of music to play, we could help you eliminate guitars that don't fit your style, but even then, the final decision is up to how they feel to you. I am going through the same thing in a separate post about Metal Guitars, and i went through this when buying my Les Paul....nobody could tell me what i wanted, it ended up feeling the best in my hands.

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#17
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That SG is not only gorgeous, it's the best player there. You REALLY don't have a choice.

subjective. What if you like the way strats play more than you like the way SGs play? they are very different because of the neck/fretboard profile, scale length, the type of bridge, string spacing.. everything. You can't just go and say one is better than the other and expect to be correct.

I think the only thing i can say about it is it's your preference. The squier will actually more likely be "better" out of the box as far as sound quality goes and will probably just need some minor setup tweaks before it's a perfectly good guitar. (although i'm a little suspicious of the quality of the pots and switches - they seem pretty shoddy and fragile)

The epiphones on the other hand - while they are completely different and definitely worth picking over the squier if you're looking for fatter tones and a looser feel on the strings, you'll probably find yourself wanting to upgrade certain parts of the guitar a few months down the line - pickups especially. Also i've had problems with epiphone bridges and the saddles coming loose and moving, resulting in the intonation having to be constantly re-adjusted, and also know a few people who have had the same problem. However, i have heard that they have sorted this problem when they moved production to china, as it allowed them to cut the building cost, enabling them to use better hardware at a lower price than when they were manufactured in korea. But they never improved the pickups, or the pots/switches, which are prone to wearing out very quickly
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#18
The problem is that I live in a small town and we have one music store which,although part of a store chain,doesn't have a huge number of guitars.A number of epiphones,squiers,ibanez some cheaper dipshit brands (have tried them before I call them dipshit) and..one gibson LP.
I can totally get my hands on a squier strat to try out but the only hollowbody they have is an Ibanez which is quite larger and overally not that comfortable and I haven't really checked if they have SG's in it.The funny part is that there are about 10 bands in here and more freelance musicians and many,MANY kids taking up guitar so if they want something better they have to order it.How do I test them now? ^^
#20
I'm digging strats atm (just bought a light ash korean one - its being set up atm)

so I'll recomend the strat
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#21
Don't get a squire classic vibe. While they are great. You can get a used Fender Mexi Strat in great condition for $300 or so on craigslist. Im not saying the Squire wont be a good guitar, but id go for a real Fender
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#23
Found an updated music store and tried several guitars.
The SG just felt right,thanks everyone for the input.
#24
Like others are saying: Used MIM Strat

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