#2
No, it is an alright amp for practice, but for gigs I would buy something else.

What's your budget and what music do you play?
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#3
Just gonna let you know Marshall MG's are generally hated here on UG. You honestly can get MUCH better tone for the same price.

But to answer your question, even 100w Solid State will cover basically any gig. If the gig for some reason is too big (I doubt your playing arena sized gigs) then you can just mic it. 100w will cover anything.

But man, you can get some way better tones for $600.
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#4
It's not good. It's an overpowered piece of crap, no offense. The MG4 is only a slight improvement for the MG series, but they still don't sound that great.

Also, any wattage amp can play any size of show as long as it's mic'd (which is what most professional guitarists do)

For $600 you can do MUCH better. Maybe check out the Peavey 6505+ 112.

Also:
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#5
Even tho I like MGs, they are more for small practice amps. For 600 dollars, I would get..

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#6
alright thanks, and no i'm talking about like house shows and actually some shows at chain reaction in anaheim...i play the music that all of you hate, hardcore (a day to remember, the devil wears prada, suicide silence, whitechapel, chelsea grin, carnifex, etc.) I don't really have a budget because what i'm planning on doing is getting the best possible amp and then not buying another one for a while so i'm gonna need the best amp no price range!! (okay maybe under $3,000) ahaha
#7
Yeah there are a ton of new/used combos and half stacks you can snag for less than $600. and I played a 2x12 valveking at a ton of shows with no volume problems.

just do a search at GC (they sell used online too) or check your local craigslist.
#8
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alright thanks, and no i'm talking about like house shows and actually some shows at chain reaction in anaheim...i play the music that all of you hate, hardcore (a day to remember, the devil wears prada, suicide silence, whitechapel, chelsea grin, carnifex, etc.) I don't really have a budget because what i'm planning on doing is getting the best possible amp and then not buying another one for a while so i'm gonna need the best amp no price range!! (okay maybe under $3,000) ahaha

Well damn. When I saw what bands you listed I was going to say definitely get the 6505+ 112 combo, but then if you can spend over $2000, there may be better options.

Actually, consider getting a 6505 head, and a cab of your choice and you should be set.

But if you really want to go deep, consider a Mesa Boogie Roadster. 4 channels, and it has great cleans and even better high gain.

There's also Engl, Fryette, Orange, Bogner, etc.
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#11
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No, it is an alright amp for practice, but for gigs I would buy something else.

A $600 100 watt half stack is 'an alright amp for practice?'

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#12
there is almost no reason why anyone needs a half stack actually. besides desire or want....but really, no. i mean unless your playing really big venues. and even then, mic'ing it is still nessesary to get sound all around the room.

so unless your doing some serious gigs, a 100 watt half stack is overkill. i mean teh edge from us often plays stadiums with miced VOX AC-30s. dudes play gigs with Dr. Z amps. tehy costs thousands and most of them are 50 watts or under.

quality not quantity. a big amp doesnt mean better, it just means you can hear the crappy sound.

if your worried about putting out sound, anything over 30 watts in a 2x12 will put out a ton of sound. my roommate plays gigs for 200 people in packed bars with a hot rod, 40 watt 1x12. most of the time its too loud. not even close to maxed.

if anything, a smaller amp can sound better, because you drive the tubes and get great crunch. i would rather have a 20 watt tube cranked than a 100 watt on 1.

in fact, i would rather have my bugera v22 than the amp you listed. 1 because mgs are not that great, 2, because my bugera is a tube and has a lot more natural sounding distortion.

personally, i would but a 1000 dollar 20-30 watt amp, and about a 100-200 dollar instrument mic if it needsto be run through a PA. and your set forever.
#13
If you can spend that much money I'd recommend getting a quality cabinet (412 or 212, whichever you want) from Mills Acoustics, Orange, Mesa etc.

For an amp head for those bands a Peavey 6505/6505+ head would be good. A dual rectifier or a roadster would be a lot more money but would do the job well. Bogner Uberschall's kick some major ass, you can search ebay or whatever and find one for $1500-2000 used. Sometimes cheaper.

Craigslist is your friend and you can get some insane deals if you search for a while in your city and other cities around you.
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#14
^^ do all those guys using dr zs or the edge play anything requiring modern high gain tones? because, y'know, a 100 watt halfstack is fairly useful for that type of tone.

Though i agree wholeheartedly that you shouldn't buy a halfstack unless you can afford a good one.

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yeah i think everyone named paul might be a bit annoyed if they spelt it your way
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#15
+1 to Dave. You want headroom when playing metal or else everything will mush out and mud up.

TS, I recommend a used 5150/6505 head and a used Boogie/Orange/Mills/Bogner, etc. cab w/V30s along with an Ibanez TS7 for a boost. If you want to spend more on the head, something like a used Soldano HR50+/100+ would work nicely.
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#17
Anything but that! No seriously though nearly every guitarist I know in my area has one of those and I just don't think they sound good at all at any sort of gig volume.
#18
i think the no stacks warning is fine when dealing with questions like this.

it's like when you're little your parents are like never ever talk to strangers because they will kill you and eat you.

but then you grow up and they is like well some strangers are ok.

and then later it's like man up and take care of your own damn self, we're done here.
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#19
are you saying when a guy is just starting out, we should tell him not to buy an MG half stack?

ok ill give you that. metal requires a bigger higher gain amp generally. most high gain amps are atleast 30-50 watts for a good one....like a 6505 combo or something. arent they 50?
#20
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are you saying when a guy is just starting out, we should tell him not to buy an MG half stack?

ok ill give you that. metal requires a bigger higher gain amp generally. most high gain amps are atleast 30-50 watts for a good one....like a 6505 combo or something. arent they 50?


no I'm saying eventually you'll know enough to pick the right tool for the job. That tool isn't always a half stack. Sometimes it is.

I mean the standard for a super ridonculous high gain head is 100watts.
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#21
50W is ample, the MG is a total piece of crap. If you are on a budget you can often pick up used JCM900s pretty cheap. A 6505 is probably the right tool for the job on a budget, they can be picked up used pretty cheap too.

I don't know why you'd think everybody here hates hardcore, sometimes it seems like that's all anybody plays on this forum.

But seriously, MGs sound really really bad. You could pay half as much and get twice the amp.
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#22
it ebbs and flows. man. sometimes it's all metal all the time. then it's 5 watt head for metal. then it's i wanna play blues. then it's metal time. it's all good. from 8 months on this forum i've been able to get recs for everything.
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#23
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i think the no stacks warning is fine when dealing with questions like this.

it's like when you're little your parents are like never ever talk to strangers because they will kill you and eat you.

but then you grow up and they is like well some strangers are ok.

and then later it's like man up and take care of your own damn self, we're done here.


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