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http://open.salon.com/blog/lawless_lawyer/2010/07/09/no_more_doma_the_end_of_the_anti-gay_movement

Yesterday, a federal district court in Boston, MA dealt a death blow to the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. DOMA's Section 3 prohibits the federal government from recognizing marriages between people of the same sex, which affects matters such as federal taxes, Social Security benefits, and Medicaid. The court found Section 3 violates the Constitution's 10th Amendment protection of state rights and the 5th Amendment's guarantee of equal protection under the law...


The story is a good bit longer than that, and it's a great read.

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Shit, God's gonna get pissed.
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So when are you and the lil man getting hitched?
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Is it still a God Complex if I really am God?

America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.
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Quote by maggot9779
Why do people have such a problem with gays? Why haven't we moved past that shit already?


No joke, rapists and pedophiles get a bad rap too, I mean, come on people, it's just the way they're born.

/endsarcasm
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yeah was weird cause she liked us both but she loved him and for some reason she let me know beforehand.

i just wanted her poon and she wanted me to have her poon.

so i had myself some poon.
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The UG Awards exist only to instill me with existential doubt.


For me, the 60's ended that day in 1978...

Willies. Fuck the lick and fuck you too.
#8
Hooray!

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No joke, rapists and pedophiles get a bad rap too, I mean, come on people, it's just the way they're born.

/endsarcasm


Are you suggesting that gays are comparable to rapists and paedophiles?
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im not sure that this is really a 'death blow', but it will lead to some interesting events in the near future.
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No joke, rapists and pedophiles get a bad rap too, I mean, come on people, it's just the way they're born.

/endsarcasm

Are you sarcastic about yourself saying all gays, rapists, and pedos are the same, or are you sarcastic about something else?

Regardless of whether this man is an ass, cheers everyone! A victory for equal rights to everyone. I'm not gay, but gays getting married doesn't affect my life in any way, so I've never seen why they should be looked down upon.

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Quote by Shirate
No joke, rapists and pedophiles get a bad rap too, I mean, come on people, it's just the way they're born.

/endsarcasm


Wait, what? We aren't talking about them.....
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Quote by Shirate
No joke, rapists and pedophiles get a bad rap too, I mean, come on people, it's just the way they're born.

/endsarcasm



read this word very carefully
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read this word very carefully

Yeah I know but does that mean he's being sarcastic about... what? Eh? I mean... what?
The UG Awards exist only to instill me with existential doubt.


For me, the 60's ended that day in 1978...

Willies. Fuck the lick and fuck you too.
#16
Hooray!
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Quote by Shirate
No joke, rapists and pedophiles get a bad rap too, I mean, come on people, it's just the way they're born.

/endsarcasm

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Shit, God's gonna get pissed.



Go fuck yourselves.
Now if we can just get rid of these fucking homophobes.


Anyways
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Originally Posted by Guitarbaddie
Dude, she's like 12, what is wrong with you?



Originally Posted by RockGuitar92
You're the one who came on her face.

Last edited by xMarkx at Jul 10, 2010,
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Go fuck yourselves.
Now if we can just get rid of these fucking homophobes.


Anyways



The second quote was a joke...
^^The above is a Cryptic Metaphor^^


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Quote by Shirate
/endsarcasm


end end sarcasm?? so, what does this mean?

On topic. Awesome! It's about time something like this happened.
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The second quote was a joke...


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Oh.
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Originally Posted by Guitarbaddie
Dude, she's like 12, what is wrong with you?



Originally Posted by RockGuitar92
You're the one who came on her face.

Last edited by xMarkx at Jul 10, 2010,
#24
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Quote by rockingamer2
The second quote was a joke...


O.o Oh.



It was the most obvious joke in the world.

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It was the most obvious joke in the world.

Off-topic: I'm listening to Glacial Planet as I post this



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Originally Posted by Guitarbaddie
Dude, she's like 12, what is wrong with you?



Originally Posted by RockGuitar92
You're the one who came on her face.

#26
Quote by Spartan070sarge
Are you suggesting that gays are comparable to rapists and paedophiles?


He is suggesting that when homosexuals use the argument 'We can't help the way we are born, we shouldn't have to be repressed sexually', everyone turns around and goes 'Wow he's right, we're all terrible people for judging you'. Yet if a paedophile uses that argument no-one cares, and they are still ostracized from society.

Of course you have to factor in consensuality for the argument to be valid.
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Good. I really dont even see the problem in letting gays marry in the first place. Why in the hell should the sexual preference of a couple interfere with their ability to be seen as a couple in the eyes of the government?

I mean, if your church/religion has a problem with it, dont let them marry in your church. Thats your choice, and the government has nothing to do with it because of a part of the First Amendment called "The Separation of Church and State", which happens to be painfully ignored by much of America.
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Paedophiles aren't chastised if they don't act upon it. It's illegal and immoral to have sex with children, and generally disgusting. Find kids attractive all you want, just don't act upon it. Rapists have a choice. They are not born with the urge to rape.

Gays are something completely different. They are born with the natural instinct to be attracted to the same sex. It hurts no one. Paedophiles who have sex with kids hurt the kids, the parents and generally society.

They are not comparable.
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Quote by Casketcreep
He is suggesting that when homosexuals use the argument 'We can't help the way we are born, we shouldn't have to be repressed sexually', everyone turns around and goes 'Wow he's right, we're all terrible people for judging you'. Yet if a paedophile uses that argument no-one cares, and they are still ostracized from society.

Of course you have to factor in consensuality for the argument to be valid.



Not sure if this applies to all gay people but i wasn't "born" gay, as far as i know
Yes i was straight at one point in my life. But then something changed my interests, don't know what it was, but i then found myself not sexually attracted to girls anymore. And then i started to see guys differently, became sexually attracted to guys.

TL;DR Wasn't born gay, i was straight at one point. But now gay. And i don't use ^ that argument ^
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Originally Posted by Guitarbaddie
Dude, she's like 12, what is wrong with you?



Originally Posted by RockGuitar92
You're the one who came on her face.

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Quote by boreamor
Paedophiles aren't chastised if they don't act upon it. It's illegal and immortal to have sex with children, and generally disgusting. Find kids attractive all you want, just don't act upon it. Rapists have a choice. They are not born with the urge to rape.

Gays are something completely different. They are born with the natural instinct to be attracted to the same sex. It hurts no one. Paedophiles who have sex with kids hurt the kids, the parents and generally society.

They are not comparable.


WTF??!! hopefully that was a typo.
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Originally Posted by Guitarbaddie
Dude, she's like 12, what is wrong with you?



Originally Posted by RockGuitar92
You're the one who came on her face.

#33
Quote by boreamor
Paedophiles aren't chastised if they don't act upon it. It's illegal and immoral to have sex with children, and generally disgusting. Find kids attractive all you want, just don't act upon it. Rapists have a choice. They are not born with the urge to rape.

Gays are something completely different. They are born with the natural instinct to be attracted to the same sex. It hurts no one. Paedophiles who have sex with kids hurt the kids, the parents and generally society.

They are not comparable.

Seriously? You wouldn't treat someone differently if they came to you and said they found kids sexually attractive, but had no desire to do anything about it. You still wouldn't leave your children or younger siblings with them.

I'm neither defending paedophiles or condemning gays here, but sodomy used to be one of the worst crimes anyone could commit, and this was as much as 100 years ago. What we are now discussing is basically just contemporary viewpoints on how acceptable homosexuality is.

I'm sure there are countless parents who hold fundamentalist attitudes who were incredibly hurt when their children came out to them.

(Rapists I don't think have a part in this discussion at all.)
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No. I'm not barbaric and I don't treat people differently if they're morally sound. Gays don't bother me, paedophiles who admit they will not do anything, people who are into sadism and masochism, etc. I may get uncomfortable around them, but I wouldn't treat them differently. Like I would treat someone who was retarded with the same human decency I'd treat someone who was "normal".
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You're being ridiculous now. I understand the point you are trying to make, but you're actually going to go as far as to say you would be friends with a paedophile because you are so open minded?

Who said anything about friends? I would treat them with human decency. I'd still be too uncomfortable around them.
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Quote by boreamor
Who said anything about friends? I would treat them with human decency. I'd still be too uncomfortable around them.

But people are homophobes if they are uncomfortable around gays?

That's all I ever hear from people....
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Quote by The_Clansman_
But people are homophobes if they are uncomfortable around gays?

That's all I ever hear from people....

There are many differences as to what constitutes homophobia, but even if you're homophobic by that definition you can act decently to people. This is just, what? Paedophobia? Wouldn't that be a fear of the young or small? It's neither here nor there to be honest. What you said and what "paedophobia" means.
The UG Awards exist only to instill me with existential doubt.


For me, the 60's ended that day in 1978...

Willies. Fuck the lick and fuck you too.
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Quote by The_Clansman_
But people are homophobes if they are uncomfortable around gays?

That's all I ever hear from people....


No, homophobes are people who despise and hate gay people. It's ok to be uncomfortable around gay people, its just that the person is not comfortable with something/somebody different than they are, or the mainstream thing.
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Originally Posted by Guitarbaddie
Dude, she's like 12, what is wrong with you?



Originally Posted by RockGuitar92
You're the one who came on her face.

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Yeah, I thought it was pretty obvious
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