#1
I was just reading the polytune thread and i noticed that more and more things are having this polyphonic capability nowadays which is like an advancement of musical gear within my lifetime already! (the pog for instance). This made me wonder about what we'll all look back on in say 20 or 30 years time and see as milestones.

In the 60s you had the advancement of amps and fuzz and distortion pedals coming about and the changes with electric guitar design and so on. What changes do you think are soon to come or have already happened that will be seen as important milestones in gear technology?
#2
Moddeling amps are a milestone for sure. I guess all the digital stuff will be seen as milestones. It may not all be great yet, but there are so many more possibilities than with analog gear.
#3
Fractal Audio Axe-FX as the first modeling preamp that's accepted as "just as good as the real deal". I don't consider POD's and V-Amps a milestone.
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Fractal Audio Axe-FX as the first modeling preamp that's accepted as "just as good as the real deal". I don't consider POD's and V-Amps a milestone.


While you might not, you have to see that technologically they provided the board for Axe FX to leap off of. The whole modelling thing is good but after a while, what are they going to model if all they make is modelling gear


I think stuff like the Line 6 Variax (sp?) guitars are quite a big one. Modelling guitar sounds rather than amps is very cool.
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Moddeling amps are a milestone for sure. I guess all the digital stuff will be seen as milestones. It may not all be great yet, but there are so many more possibilities than with analog gear.


+1

Modelling seems to be a phase at the moment, and it'll keep getting better and better and better until it hits that milestone.

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I think MIDI pickups are one of the big milestones not mentioned yet. With them, the possibilities are vast, and although they're not widely used in popular music, I think they'll get more popular as people realise just what you can do with them, and as more options for using them come out.
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i think that noiseless single coil are a big milestone as well as coil tapping and pleck machine.
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i think that noiseless single coil are a big milestone as well as coil tapping and pleck machine.

What is a pleck machine?


I think that coil taps have been around since the 70s, i'm sure i heard of jimmy page having something like that in his les paul, zappa definately used it on a strat he had modded in the 80s too.
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What is a pleck machine?


the super accurate Plek Machine will set up the fret board [and frets i think] for optimal and playing adjustments. basically there are institutions around that have Plek Machines and you can send you guitar there for setup. they are renowned for removing minimal material on old guitars (say a pre-war martin) to help keep them stock while maintaining playability.

edit: btw, modeling/digital multi-effects will be a huge milestone in the future. even the heavily looked-down-upon Line 6, zoom 505, or rp-20ish digitech stuff pioneered affordable effects in a ingle box. future setups will be held to that affordable astandard but will be much better. they'll wonder how we ever afforded tons of amps and effects in the future.
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While you might not, you have to see that technologically they provided the board for Axe FX to leap off of. The whole modelling thing is good but after a while, what are they going to model if all they make is modelling gear


I think stuff like the Line 6 Variax (sp?) guitars are quite a big one. Modelling guitar sounds rather than amps is very cool.

i have a variax, and i find that it sounds quite clinical and sterile. Not brilliant, especially through a particularly responsive tube amp which really shows up it's weak points.

I love using it through amp/stompbox modelling software like guitar rig though - combined with variax workbench, it gives me access to just about any tone imaginable, which is useful for recording.

I think line 6 will go down in history, though, for things like the POD.
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I think line 6 will go down in history, though, for things like the POD.


yeah, they'll be known for bringing it to the people, but companies like UA will be known for making it credible.
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#16
Coiltapping...

In my opinion that's the best one since stompboxes and solid-state amps.
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the solid body electric in general is a pretty new thing considering its only been less than 100 years we have had them.
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Everything I wanted to say has been said already =(
digital modeling, mainly... polyphonic (tuners, octavers, harmonizers..)
MIDI in general is something that hasn't been around for THAT long and that's quite a milestone... you can think of a MIDI setup with a pedalboard and a rackmount, but there's also the midi keyboard, midi electronic drumkit, guitarpro and fruity loops...
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EHX will be remembered for all of the crazy stuff they've put out (HOG, POG, Polyphase, Frequency Analyzer, ect) and the reasonable prices they're set at.
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#21
Actually, I've been thinking about this. I think the iPhone will be a great leap forward in portable quiet playing.

With stuff like Guitar Rig & Polytune apps it's kinda becoming really useful.
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Actually, I've been thinking about this. I think the iPhone will be a great leap forward in portable quiet playing.

With stuff like Guitar Rig & Polytune apps it's kinda becoming really useful.

The vox amplug type things too will be seen as important. And maybe we're the first generation of guitarists to witness actually good software amp sims like guitar rig and amplitube.

edit: and i know it's a bump but i was gonna make a new thread and then i remembered i had this, so it's relevant , a thread doesn't go out of date if the question is relevant either. so there.
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Gibson Robot? tunes your guitar for you . . .

What he meant is a guitar that has a tuner built in that you can use, not a guitar that tunes itself.
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What is a pleck machine?

Basically just a big electronic fret leveller/nut filer (I think they do nuts at least)
#26
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I'm pretty sure acoustic guitars have had them for a while >.>

Yeah, but if you read the original post he said on ELECTRIC guitars.
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#27
Gibson Robot for sure. Give it a decade or two, you won't be able to find a guitar that isn't a robot.

I'm not sure when modeling came out, but modeling in general for sure (I'm only 19).

Ibanez, IMO. They proved that you can make a bridge better than the OFR. Though it feels like not that many people really care about that one.

Line 6. They don't have anything really for me yet, but I have a huge amount of respect for Line 6. Unlike other companies, even though they make a lot of "dud" amps, at least they are out there trying shit. Trying to move the industry forward. Shit like the DT50 is crazy. Give them a few more years for them to get the DT50 right, and analogue amps are gonna be history. As a big hybrid modeler fan, what they're doing excites me. I just wish they'd come out with a Vetta hybrid or something, then I would switch over to that from the Vypyr Tube.
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#28
Yeah the Gibson Robot guitar is probably one of the biggest innovations of this time period. Though I really don't like the idea of being so lazy/inept that you can't tune your guitar. I kinda like tube amps, analogue electronics, and the whole old-school gear. The digital age is something that kinda makes me nervous about the future of music in general. The human element seems to be taken out of the production process a little at a time.
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This isn't really something we'll look back on but something that will just improve. Look at mbox's and similar audio interfaces. 20 years ago, not nearly as many people were messing around with recording, except for audio engineers.
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Everything I wanted to say has been said already =(
digital modeling, mainly... polyphonic (tuners, octavers, harmonizers..)
MIDI in general is something that hasn't been around for THAT long and that's quite a milestone... you can think of a MIDI setup with a pedalboard and a rackmount, but there's also the midi keyboard, midi electronic drumkit, guitarpro and fruity loops...

I've been using MIDi for almost 30 years. Not that old huh? That makes me feel a bit younger.

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