#1
So, imagine this situation: you need a new amp, and you need it for multiple purposes.
Here's what you'll use it for:

- playing guitar at band rehearsals, 2 or 3 times a week (3 to 6 hours total);
- playing bass at home, either alone or jamming with a friend or two;
- connecting a microphone, and using it as a standalone voice amp for gigging.


I was thinking a bass amp would be the best option. A small combo (to be loaded easily into my car's trunk), with 50 to 100 watts (since it will be used for the voice in small club gigs).
Maybe something like a Gallien Krueger Backline 112 or an Orange Crush PiX CR50BX.


What would you do?
Would you get a bass amp, or something else?
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#3
Any specific amp will sound pretty crap on anything other than the instrument it's intended for. I'd go for a small portable PA, a DI box and a preamp for guitar/bass (like a Line 6 POD)
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#5
Quote by Demonikk
Any specific amp will sound pretty crap on anything other than the instrument it's intended for. I'd go for a small portable PA, a DI box and a preamp for guitar/bass (like a Line 6 POD)

Could you please give me an example of a PA setup for roughly 200€?
Because i thought about a PA system, but they were so expensive that buying an extra amp looked like a better option.

It will be used for small clubs only, in bigger venues we use the house's PA.

Quote by BabyWantABottle
Are there any bass amps with an XLR input?

No need to. I have an "XLR to 6.3 mono jack" cable.
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#6
Quote by Demonikk
Any specific amp will sound pretty crap on anything other than the instrument it's intended for. I'd go for a small portable PA, a DI box and a preamp for guitar/bass (like a Line 6 POD)


*cough* Bassman *cough*


if you get an SS bass amp get one with more than 100 watts, a tube bassamp doesn't have to have the huge wattage I don't think.


Certain bass amps like the old SS Traynor TS50Bs (what are the chances of one being in Portugal?), people really like the drive on that amp so they turn the gain up and the volume up and I've read that it just eats through speakers because the " low squarewave frequencies heat up the voicecoils and destroy the speakers ", even though it's only 50 watts and most cabs are much more. Probably not the case for most amps.

With SS you can't go wrong with too high of a wattage though, really.
#7
Quote by Tedward
*cough* Bassman *cough*

I thought the same thing, but i didn't want to start an argument.
But as an example, a friend of mine uses an ESP Eclipse guitar and an old Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal pedal through a Warwick bass combo amp, and has an incredible death metal tone. One of the best i ever heard.

Quote by Tedward
if you get an SS bass amp get one with more than 100 watts, a tube bassamp doesn't have to have the huge wattage I don't think.


Certain bass amps like the old SS Traynor TS50Bs (what are the chances of one being in Portugal?), people really like the drive on that amp so they turn the gain up and the volume up and I've read that it just eats through speakers because the " low squarewave frequencies heat up the voicecoils and destroy the speakers ", even though it's only 50 watts and most cabs are much more. Probably not the case for most amps.

With SS you can't go wrong with too high of a wattage though, really.

I'd say the chances of finding that kind of old amps, like the Traynor you mentioned are pretty much zero.
I've tried to find stuff like an Ampeg VH140c, with no success. The only noteworthy used amp i ever found was a Laney AOR which, unfortunately, i couldn't afford at the time.

And yes, i set 50 watts as the minimum wattage, since i'm going for an SS amp.
But the Gallien Krueger Backline 112 has 100 watts... And it has a 12" speaker, which i heard is great for guitar (supposedly, 15" bass speakers add too much bass...? ), so it could be the best option so far.
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Last edited by Linkerman at Jul 11, 2010,
#8
a good keyboard amp would probably be best for vocals, and then some sort of pedal to get your guitar/bass tones. maybe one of those tech 21 character pedals or something.
#9
look at some old(like the 80's)peavey amps, they made some decent amps that are made for multiple purposes just like this
#10
What about a powered speaker/monitor?
Would that work better for these multiple purposes?
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#11
Just what I was about to say - powered bin and some sort of Pod.
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#12
Quote by Cathbard
Just what I was about to say - powered bin and some sort of Pod.

Could you please recommend me a specific one (brand/model) with a good quality/price ratio?

Here are the shops i usually buy from, for reference:
MusicStore
DV247
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PRS SE Singlecut
tc electronic polytune
CMAT MODS Signa Drive
Blakemore Effects Deus Ex Machina
DIY gaussmarkov Dr. Boogey
EHX Small Clone
Mooer ShimVerb
DIY Beavis Devolt
T-REX Fuel Tank Chameleon
Ampeg GVT52-112
#14
Quote by AcousticMirror
i'd grab a thunderverb 200

I would to, Acoustic, if i had the money...
That would mean i could also afford a full PA sytem.


Btw, there's a new question on the table:

Could anyone please recommend me a powered speaker/monitor of some sort with a good quality/price ratio?

For reference, these are the shops i usually buy from:
MusicStore
DV247
Squier "VMC" Stratocaster
PRS SE Singlecut
tc electronic polytune
CMAT MODS Signa Drive
Blakemore Effects Deus Ex Machina
DIY gaussmarkov Dr. Boogey
EHX Small Clone
Mooer ShimVerb
DIY Beavis Devolt
T-REX Fuel Tank Chameleon
Ampeg GVT52-112
#15
Something like this. You'd want a small mixer too; one with XLR inputs for your mic.
Mackie stuff is good but a bit expensive. Their bins are quite nice too.
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Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band