#1
Hello,

I was just wondering if anyone could help me figure out what modes and arpeggios Larry Carlton is playing in the studio version of Kid Charlemagne's guitar solo. Yes, I know a few modes and arpeggios but I am still having a hard time deciphering this.

The first two pentatonic licks are no biggy, but when he starts that third lick with the chromatic passing tone/arpeggioish deal and really starts wailing, he loses me.

Anyhow, I was hoping someone could pick out a few of the licks/modes/arps/whatever he's doing so I could use these devices in my own playing.
#3
never heard this solo but maybe use what you already know about the song to help you.

in some way they have to be connected or it'll sound ike crap
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#4
there is nothing in this solo that is all too complicated. he's just playing common scales over different chords then usual.

it's a lot of pentatonics with triads.

a majority of the time he's using a pentatonic scale a major 3rd above the maj7th chords.

i forgot the chords for the solo, but i do believe there is a Fmaj7 chord somewhere underneath him, and he plays A minor pentatonic ideas over it. However, he doesn't do normal type of licks that a rock player might do, he'll do different rhythmic patterns.

he also likes to play major triads a whole step up from dominant 7th chords. He does it in this solo too from what i remember.

so here are two new concepts you can mess around with in your own playing.

1. over a major chord, you can play a pentatonic scale a major 3rd up. so for Fmaj/Fmaj7/Fmaj9 etc you can play an A minor pentatonic.

2. over any dominant 7th chord, you can play a major triad a whole step up. ex: you have a C7, you can play D major triadic ideas all over the neck. It gives a #11/b5 type of sound.

also btw, never use the word modes. There are no modes being played here
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Last edited by rich2k4 at Jul 12, 2010,
#5
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Anyhow, I was hoping someone could pick out a few of the licks/modes/arps/whatever he's doing so I could use these devices in my own playing.



It's a great solo.

learn it... the whole thing. memorize it.

play it, feel it, dig it.

That's how you get those devices into your own playing.
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#6
Quote by rich2k4
there is nothing in this solo that is all too complicated. he's just playing common scales over different chords then usual.

it's a lot of pentatonics with triads.

a majority of the time he's using a pentatonic scale a major 3rd above the maj7th chords.

i forgot the chords for the solo, but i do believe there is a Fmaj7 chord somewhere underneath him, and he plays A minor pentatonic ideas over it. However, he doesn't do normal type of licks that a rock player might do, he'll do different rhythmic patterns.

he also likes to play major triads a whole step up from dominant 7th chords. He does it in this solo too from what i remember.

so here are two new concepts you can mess around with in your own playing.

1. over a major chord, you can play a pentatonic scale a major 3rd up. so for Fmaj/Fmaj7/Fmaj9 etc you can play an A minor pentatonic.

2. over any dominant 7th chord, you can play a major triad a whole step up. ex: you have a C7, you can play D major triadic ideas all over the neck. It gives a #11/b5 type of sound.

also btw, never use the word modes. There are no modes being played here


So that's what he's doing. Huh. I need to go look into why this works.

Thanks a bunch!
#7
first get the sound of these concepts in your ears. then figure out why it works. Sound first.....explanations later.
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#9
Aha, thanks Quinny. I guess I gotta learn the neck a little bit more to be able to hit those target tones a bit better in my own leads.

Thanks to everybody else that responded.

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