#1
Hello. I decided to bring up the guitar again, and I want an electric guitar. Ill make it short, and say that I play mostly heavy-metal, classic rock, and harder metal... well yeah I got around maximum 400$ and I want a guitar and an amplifier for that. I want guitar with like "standard" sound, that fits to most music.
Can anyone give me tips of a guitar and amplifier? Here are some I've been looking on:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/esp_ltd_m100fm_stbk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_rga32_wh.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/schecter_omen_6_bk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/marshall_mg15fxnew.htm


Cheers Naikon
#2
If i were you i would get the Ibanez
Stay away from Marshall MGs they suck. how about a peavey vypyr or line 6? anything but Marshall MG IMO
#3
I would go with the Schecter Omen for a first guitar. Floyd rose / whammy bar can be a pain adjust when switching strings and changing tunings especially for a first guitar . I also agree keep away from the mg series i would get the line 6 instead (this hurts to say :P)
#4
no not a line6 spider, they suck more than the marshall MG

the ibanez and a peavey vypyr or roland cube
#5
roland cube or peavey vypyr. guitar is up to you. i would say alot up to about 150 to 200 max on the amp. i would go 150ish, which is what you will pay for atleast a 15 watt cube or something.

but i own a spider 3, and a friend owns a cube as a practice amp, and cubes are probably the best solid state practice amps you can buy. fantastic! vypyrs are very good as well. dont buy the line 6. i use it sure, but i can tell you striaght up money can be better spent.

possibly an ibanez or an agile?
#6
Thanks for the advices, I appreciate it.
So its between
http://www.thomann.de/se/roland_cube_20x.htm
http://www.thomann.de/se/peavey_vypyr_30.htm
and
http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_tbx30rdbk_limited.htm

The Vypyr is about 25% more expensive then the Cube, but its like 50% bigger

Im just using it for myself in my room, not with my band. Id like to get it as cheap as possible, but still with good quality. Is the really Vypyr worth the extra money? Is it a big diffrence with the Vypyr because its 25% more expensive?

Thanks in advance again!
#7
well if you are that concerned about the price, there is the vypyr 15w. i think it's like $50 cheaper, more or less.
#11
Quote by philipk
bigger doesnt mean better
theres also the vox valvetronix


In this case it does. The Vypyr 30 has a lot more features than the 15. TS, I'd go for the 30 if you're getting a Vypyr. It's a good amp, worth the money imo.

Even if it costs more, it's way more important to have a good amp than a good guitar.

EDIT: I was looking through your site, and I found this.
http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_grgr121exbkn.htm

It'd be a good first guitar.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Last edited by Offworld92 at Jul 12, 2010,
#12
Quote by philipk
bigger doesnt mean better
theres also the vox valvetronix


+1. Has a tube in the power section.
NT

BE QUICK OR BE DEAD SON
#13
Quote by Offworld92
In this case it does. The Vypyr 30 has a lot more features than the 15. TS, I'd go for the 30 if you're getting a Vypyr. It's a good amp, worth the money imo.

Even if it costs more, it's way more important to have a good amp than a good guitar.

EDIT: I was looking through your site, and I found this.
http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_grgr121exbkn.htm

It'd be a good first guitar.



Thanks for your reply! So a Vypyr it is, but I cant decide the guitar. I think Id like humbucker and single coil instead of "the big black square-mics" You see Im not so good at guitar-parts

Im not a beginner, Ive been playing guitar for quite a long, though not so serious.

Right now its between
- The one you said
http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_grg170dx_bkn_egitarre.htm
http://www.thomann.de/se/schecter_omen_6_bk.htm
http://www.thomann.de/se/jackson_js23_dinky_sw.htm

Two other questions: Someone said to me that its easier to switch strings on the Schecter because its not Floyd Rose? Does it mean that its like impossible to do it on a Floyd Rose? :P
The other question, what does "dinky" mean? Included in the Jackson...
Last edited by Naikon at Jul 12, 2010,
#14
Quote by Offworld92
In this case it does. The Vypyr 30 has a lot more features than the 15. TS, I'd go for the 30 if you're getting a Vypyr. It's a good amp, worth the money imo.

Even if it costs more, it's way more important to have a good amp than a good guitar.

EDIT: I was looking through your site, and I found this.
http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_grgr121exbkn.htm

It'd be a good first guitar.

yes but hes new to guitar and he wont be gigging, so he needs a practice amp
i borrowed a frontman 15 watt and i play it on the lowest possible volume that is possible- a bit above no sound at all (on the dist. channel)
so 30 for home practice is way too much
in my opinion
#15
Quote by NosralTserrof
+1. Has a tube in the power section.


Preamp, I think.

Quote by Naikon


Two other questions: Someone said to me that its easier to switch strings on the Schecter because its not Floyd Rose? Does it mean that its like impossible to do it on a Floyd Rose? :P
The other question, what does "dinky" mean? Included in the Jackson...


Not impossible, but definitely more work to it. And if you want to change tunings or string gauges it's a pain in the ass to be honest as you have to adjust the springs in the back and constantly tune/retune until it's right. Floyd Roses can be fun, but they can also be a lot of maintenance, and cheap FR's are notorious for wearing down and eventually making it very difficult to keep your guitar in tune. My advice is for now, if you don't need a floyd rose, don't get one. Maybe when you upgrade to your next guitar if you're interested in a floyd rose, get a guitar with an Original Floyd Rose (Not a licensed one).

As for Dinky, that's just the name of that model by Jackson.
Member #10 Of The Black Tooth Grin: Dimebag Memorial Club. PM Narmi To Join
#16
Quote by philipk
yes but hes new to guitar and he wont be gigging, so he needs a practice amp
i borrowed a frontman 15 watt and i play it on the lowest possible volume that is possible- a bit above no sound at all (on the dist. channel)
so 30 for home practice is way too much
in my opinion


Ahh, youre right, I almost forgot that. But you are completely right. Im just playing in my room, at not so high volume at all
So the Vypyr 15w is okay? It doesnt sound bad?
What about the Vypyr 15w VS this: http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_tbx30rdbk_limited.htm
Seems like that Ibanez amp doesnt have as much effects as the Vypyr, but it might sound much better?

//Naikon
#17
personaly out of all of these amps tried only the ibanez tone blaster
it sucks
the fender frontman 15 that i mentioned
sucks
i dont know anything about the other ones, im just talking about the wattage
the vox valvetronix has a knob to controll the wattage, can be turned down to 1 watt if you want to
the roland cube 20x has a button on it that turns it down from 20 to 2 watts
so....thats it, i dont think i have any more to say here since i didnt try any of the other amps
#18
Have you considered used? I don't know how much used equipment you have available in your area but you can get more for your money. As far as the amp goes I would make sure it has at least a 10 inch speaker. I have owned a Cube 30X, a Vox AD30VT and a Vox AD15VT. The 8 inch speaker in the 15VT just doesn't cut it. The whole thing is to try as many of them out as you can and pick the one that sounds best to you. Like I said at the beginning I would look used if possible.
#19
Hey again guys. I found a VOX VT15 Valvetronix on Thomann, and its pretty cheap! What about it? Does it suck, or is it super awesome? http://www.thomann.de/se/vox_vt15.htm

/Naikon

EDIT: Right now its between the Vox VT15 and the Vypyr 15w. The vypyr feels little more metal, when the Vox seems to be more blues... am I right? In that case I would go on the Vypyr.
Last edited by Naikon at Jul 13, 2010,
#20
I'd reccomend the Ibanez, looks like a great first guitar
Quote by maiden03
Ahhh damn you vinc3nt!

Downpressor man

Where you gonna run to

All along that day


੧_\\\
#21
Quote by vinc3nt
I'd reccomend the Ibanez, looks like a great first guitar



As, I said, its not my first guitar. I had a cheap crap guitar, that really sucked and sold. Ive been playing acoustic for a while.

What Ibanez do you mean? http://www.thomann.de/se/ibanez_grg170dx_bkn_egitarre.htm this one?

Ive been looking on a Schecter Omen 6 for the same price as the Ibanez. Isnt it even better?
#22
Quote by philipk
yes but hes new to guitar and he wont be gigging, so he needs a practice amp
i borrowed a frontman 15 watt and i play it on the lowest possible volume that is possible- a bit above no sound at all (on the dist. channel)
so 30 for home practice is way too much
in my opinion


A 30W will not be very much louder than a 15W. Watts don't work linearly. 2x the wattage doesn't mean 2x the volume.

I live in an apartment and I practice with my 100W. If I can do that, he can certainly practice with 30.

I have the Vypyr 15, and I wish I would have saved up for the 30. The 30 just offers so much more - I would probably play it still if I had the options the 30 has. It's just better than the 15, and will introduce the TS to a lot more effects. It has a lot more options for later down the road, such as USB and all that as well.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X