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#1: Line 6 HD147

A couple of weeks ago I got (one of) my dream amp(s): a Line 6 HD147. I've wanted one for about six years now but for some reason never got around to buying one before, then they discontinued it and I had to buy up the last one in the country...

This thing is unbelievable. I A/B'd the Marshall Plexi tones against my previous Peavey Windsor head (all-valve in the style of a classic Marshall) and I honestly can't tell the difference other than the background noise levels are much lower on the Line 6 (plus it technically has 32 channels instead of the Peavey's 1). The various clean tones are of course impeccable - it's a solid state amp with 300 watts of headroom so it never breaks up unless you say so.
Of course where it really excels are the various high-gain tones. Everything from '70s pedal-boosted plexis to modern day triple rectifiers and obscure German amps that I've never heard of but sound like hell on toast (in a good way). They've not just modelled the overall tones well, they've even modelled how the controls taper and operate for each amp. The built-in noise gate and compressor are very good, though the noise gate is a little stronger than it needs to be. The various effects are all good too, if a little awkward to configure quickly (for example, the depth, speed and volume of the chorus effect are all controlled by the one knob).

I could rave for literally pages about this amp, but I'll refrain. Suffice to say, I can't fault it. I'll try to get some sound clips or video up sometime but don't hold your breath (I'm very, very lazy).



#2: LTD H-1001

Okay, I actually got this a few months ago. But see above: I'm lazy.

I actually imported this before the new H-1001s officially hit UK shores. Normally I wouldn't bother importing, but I had the chance to grab this direct from the US distributor at barely more than cost; even with import duties it wound up being just £430 (these go for around £750 here). Quite a bargain.

Over the last few months I've been using this guitar for everything from down-tuned modern gothic metal to Bob Dylan, Japanese RnB and mid '80s Clapton; it handles everything equally well. Anyone who thinks active pickups are only for metal are sorely mistaken. With the Peavey head I got rich, thick rock and classic metal tones and rolling the guitar's volume control down brought up punchy early punk and grunge tones. With the Line 6 I'm getting literally any tone I want; the EMG's ultra-wide frequency response and even tone lets the amp work its magic to full effect.

I won't go into the full spec of this guitar because you can look it up easily on the ESP site. The construction is top-notch; it is completely on-par with most MIJ and MIA guitars I've tried and owned, at least in terms of the core construction (of course the wood quality is a little lower but that's a given). The locking ESP-branded tuners have kept the guitar in tune perfectly no matter what I try. There was no buzz anywhere on the neck when the guitar arrived until I tried tuning it down to D Standard, where the 5th and 6th strings started to buzz a little. I like mid-high action though, so I raised it to a more comfortable height for me and that also got rid of what little buzz there had been. Everything else is routed and installed flawlessly.

The best part of this guitar is, without a doubt, the compensated nut. Since living with this guitar I've found myself unable to go back to guitars with regular nuts; I've now fitted Earvana compensted nuts to all of my other guitars. Every note is in-tune - every string, every fret. I urge everyone reading this to try out a compensated nut. you'll never want to touch a regular nut again.

My one and only complaint is the abalone binding. ESP need to lose this shite. This has always put me off buying an LTD Deluxe, but given how cheaply I was able to buy this I can forgive something as inane as ugly binding.


Pictures! Well, picture for now.



I've taken a load more of the LTD looking all pretty and the amp lit up but since I'm the kind of cockend who takes all his photos as RAW format, so they take time to sort through and process which I'll do in the morning. Plus the LTD's got some dust build up around the mounting rings so I want to clear that off and take a few more first. Pretty much just posting this now as a kind of placeholder and I'll be sticking more pictures in sometime tomorrow, then if I get around to it video or at least audio clips sometime within the next two or three days.


Picture update.

Woo, pictures. Dumped the first load because the LTD really was way too dusty. Cleaned it up, took some more. Of course, trust tody to be overcast and dim. Lazy shots in the bedroom will have to do.




Fretboard really is unusually dark for rosewood.


Not such a fan of the abalone obviously, but I do like the more subtle pearl inlay. Should have made the binding out of that.
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nice! Good score on the LTD, it's definitely worth importing stuff when you get a deal, and LTD is very dear here in the UK. I agree about the binding, it spoils them for me too, as the guitars otherwise look very nice.

watch out for all the anti-spyder guys who are about to turn up, lol.
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Ah. Seeing that ESP makes me miss my MH1000

Congrats on the gear, though. As stated above, the rig looks very clean.
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watch out for all the anti-spyder guys who are about to turn up, lol.
Already had one of those at a gig. He was playing a Marshall MG100, so...

I appreciate Line 6 have earnt a bad reputation by making truly shitty beginner amps but by jove, they can make a damn fine amp when they want to.


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As stated above, the rig looks very clean.
The guitar is covered in dust around the bridge and pickups, the black finish shows up fingerprints really clearly and the amp's taken quite a cosmetic beating. Trust me, if it was actually clean I wouldn't have taken the shot in black & white and at such an odd angle
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Already had one of those at a gig. He was playing a Marshall MG100, so...


i guess the jokes on him. GREAT set up! really love the artsy photo too
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^ I don't mind the attention ***** thing, I just don't really like the look of it

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Already had one of those at a gig. He was playing a Marshall MG100, so...

I appreciate Line 6 have earnt a bad reputation by making truly shitty beginner amps but by jove, they can make a damn fine amp when they want to.


yeah, i haven't really tried the higher-end ones, but i've heard enough from people i trust to know that it's just the low-end ones which suck.

lol at the mg
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#11
beautiful axe, i love your description of the line 6 head, sounds very nice, hnad and a few months ago, hngd
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#12
The HD is one of Line 6's best amp imo congrats
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Awesome rig man, HNA and GD!
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What I like most is the feng shui behind it. Your set up looks very clean but epic.
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Congrats on the new equipment. I gig with a Line 6 and I always hear the same old amp bashing but when they hear it they usually shut up a lot of guys think i had it modified. Not very long ago I had some jerk jump on stage and moshing he banged into my stack and sent my Line 6 crashing to the floor 8' below on the concrete floor. Well, I thought it was trashed. We plugged it back in and turned it on played just as good as it ever did!

Post some sound clips as soon as you can. I would like to hear how the Line 6 sounds thru the Marshall cab. I couldn't find any Marshall cab I was happy with paired with my Line 6.
#16
i jizzed over that pic

i might have to get one of those ltd's soon
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How much gain can the Line 6 get? Are we talking like deathcore (shudder) type gain?
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#18
Mmmm the H-1001 looks soooo good. What's so wrong with abalone bro? I think it looks pretty good on most of their guitars, especially the darker coloured ones (like my MH)
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I couldn't find any Marshall cab I was happy with paired with my Line 6.
I didn't get the cab with this head in mind. I bought the cab quite a while ago, before I even had my Peavey head. I don't know much about cab construction so all I knew was I wanted a brand I recognise so I felt safe that it wasn't going to fall apart. It could well be that there are other cabs out there that would sound a lot better and maybe would have even been cheaper, but I just wanted a safe option that was easy to get hold of so Marshall it was.

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Mmmm the H-1001 looks soooo good. What's so wrong with abalone bro? I think it looks pretty good on most of their guitars, especially the darker coloured ones (like my MH)
It's too flashy for me. I think it works with green or natural finishes where at least at a distance the abalone just looks like matching green binding, but with anything else I think it looks tacky. I appreciate they at least kept the inlays to a minium though, I will probably never buy a high-end Schecter thanks to their extensive abalone inlays.

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How much gain can the Line 6 get? Are we talking like deathcore (shudder) type gain?
We're talking I-can't-even-tell-what-is-being-played levels of distortion, if you wanted that. The gain and volume of this head can get to plain stupid levels. It's really there as headroom so you're never maxing out the amp (since solid states sound terrible when they're driven to their extremes, quite the opposite of valve amps), but if you wanted to actually use that gain and volume to its maximum you could, though I honestly doubt anyone would ever want to use any more than 60% of the maxium gain.


What I'm probably going to do for sound clips (video's out as I just realised my brother has my video camera) is record the best and most interesting tones using the same few quick riffs so there's a nice direct comparison, then maybe just one or two extended bits for the very best tones if I can be bothered (hint: I can't). I'll probably do something quick with the LTD through the Peavey too for a fair comparison against a valve amp. I think people will be surprised (probably more at my terrible playing than the tone, but ah well).
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HNG+AD!
I havent tried a HD147, but they sound great for the clips I've heard!
And the 1001's are really nice too, except all that abalone binding
#22
HNG/AD! But that guitar looks ALOT like a Schecter.
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Those Line6 HD's are amazing. Happy new gear day, I hope you have a lot of fun with it.

I agree on the abalone thingy; It's just too much. I appreciate a good binding around the neck or body, but please, not in abalone. Abalone should be used as a small detail, an added effect. Not with the 'let's-see-how-much-we-can-fit-on-here-oh-wait-there's-still-the-body-to-do!'-mindset.

Just out of curiosity though, weren't you the guy who was always bashing EMG's in the fact that anyone who doesn't gig in big stadiums using dimed valve amps shouldn't use them? Good to see you like them.
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HNG/AD! But that guitar looks ALOT like a Schecter.
ESP and Schecter are owned byt he same parent company and many of their guitars are made int he same few factories, so it stands to reason they've very similar. To the best of my knowledge the only major techncial difference between most Schecters and most LTDs is the Schecter neck is 0.4mm thicker at the base.

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Just out of curiosity though, weren't you the guy who was always bashing EMG's in the fact that anyone who doesn't gig in big stadiums using dimed valve amps shouldn't use them? Good to see you like them.
Yes and no. My point has always been that you shouldn't bother with something as specialised as active pickups unless you actually know what you're doing with them; if you just use them like passives then you might as well just have passives. To that end, yeah, when it comes to valve amps active pickups only really offer any benefits when you're really cranking everything (not exactly suitable for bedroom heroes). Of course with most solid states they're not much use either since a solid state amp being forced to clip naturally is one of the most unpleasant tones available.
But that's why the HD147 has so much headroom. It can take full advantage of the EMG's wider and flatter frequency response range but it's built to cope with the power of actives so it won't produce that horrible transistor clipping (unless you wanted it to, in which case the option is there). This is the same reason why active pickups and a Roland JC-120 is such a popular combination for super-clean jazz playing.
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I love ESP's myself. I have the EC-500- which is great because they don't go ape shit on the abalone. That's why I don't like the 1000's. The binding is just excessive and it makes the instrument look cheap. Too bad I don't like the 401's either...I'm stuck with a discontinued model.

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I know, it's fine. The problem is a lot of people on here are new and unless you explain things in really black and white terms, things can go wrong for them quickly. A lot of newer users might read "actives are good with some certain solid state amps" and they'll assume their "crushing" MG10 is one of those. So you'll often find people on here making quite sweeping statements when advising clearly new players.
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I know, it's fine. The problem is a lot of people on here are new and unless you explain things in really black and white terms, things can go wrong for them quickly. A lot of newer users might read "actives are good with some certain solid state amps" and they'll assume their "crushing" MG10 is one of those. So you'll often find people on here making quite sweeping statements when advising clearly new players.

That happens more times than I know of. When I post a gear recommendation thread, maybe 2 of the 20 posts have an answer thats justified, so I just gave up completely on user's opinions here about guitars. Amps are a different story.

Anyways, nice guitar man. Enjoy!
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To that end, yeah, when it comes to valve amps active pickups only really offer any benefits when you're really cranking everything (not exactly suitable for bedroom heroes).


That's a vague and sloppy statement. It could be said for any pickups, plus there are infinite tones available even if you don't want to crank everything, doesn't matter if you play EMGs or anything else. There are tonal differences, but which one a person prefers is purely individual tastes.


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Of course with most solid states they're not much use either since a solid state amp being forced to clip naturally is one of the most unpleasant tones available.


Except if someone actually likes that tone. And what tone is it actually? There are many different solid state amps, and most of them respond differently, depending on their design.
I for example love early Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers guitar tones, where Mike Campbell played through a VOX Super Beatle, pushing it into distortion with an Echoplex. And that ain't no jazz.

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It can take full advantage of the EMG's wider and flatter frequency response range


Generalizing that all EMG pickups have a wide and flat frequency response is a mistake. It's more or less true about the 81, and the story pretty much ends there. Because most other EMGs use the so called "impedance modeling", so they actually create a frequency curve pretty similar to passive pickups inside the preamp.





#30
HNAD and HNGD - it's nice to see someone respected on this forum praising line 6 AND solid state amps for all the right reasons

Although, now i'm suffering from a touch of HD147 gas. even though i really don't like using modellers because they offer too many tonal options and i end up spending too much time dicking around with settings and stuff, and i'm such a tone chaser that i can't just live with one particular sound and say "that's the best i'm gonna get out of this amp", because there are too many other options for me to try incase they do the job better
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Happy New Awesome Rig Day!

That seriously does look cool as fuck; I'd love to have that behind me on-stage.
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I know, it's fine. The problem is a lot of people on here are new and unless you explain things in really black and white terms, things can go wrong for them quickly. A lot of newer users might read "actives are good with some certain solid state amps" and they'll assume their "crushing" MG10 is one of those. So you'll often find people on here making quite sweeping statements when advising clearly new players.


yeah definitely. or you say something for a very specific situation, and then find that other people are parrotting it all over the forum for all cases.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#34
Congrats, and i agree on the ltd. the abalone is a bit much. the head looks great, we never had one in the store so i haven't played that one.
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Ooh, I've never seen a high end modeling amp in the flesh, much less played one. I was gas'ing for an Axe-FX a while ago, but I still get the fairly new, it's not a tube pang when I want one.

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Added some more shots of the LTD to the first post.

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i end up spending too much time dicking around with settings and stuff
Precisely why sound clips are going to take a while. I don't stop fiddling with all the settings while I'm playing, then of course when you hear yourself recorded you notice things you didn't catch when you were playing. God help me when I get the foot controller and I have access to all 32 custom presets.

It also doesn't help that I've realised my main mic doesn't work. Now the only working mic I have is the USB one from Guitar Hero. Somehow I doubt that will provide optimum audio quality. Just going to have to hold on for those sound clips untiL I figure out what the hells I'm going to do. The HD147 can actually go direct out, doesn't even need a cab (and in fact this is how most people use it for gigs, direct to the PA with no mic'ing needed) but that's kind of cheating. Eh~
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Lol theres an HD147 around Ive been wanting to get, just dont have the spare cash, he was only asking 400$ for it
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nice new pics. the binding actually looks nicer in colour
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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