#3
$900 new on musicians friend. The cleans will be ok but nothing special. With the EMG's cleans probably wont be ur main focus though
#4
Quote by guns_rosesldb
$900 new on musicians friend. The cleans will be ok but nothing special. With the EMG's cleans probably wont be ur main focus though

right would it sound good with a Vox AC30?
#5
Quote by Ponyexpress
EDIT:also does it get good clean tones?


I think you'd better ask your amp...


They're EMG humbuckers...they clip a lot. Your cleans won't be nice, but they'll be passable.
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#6
Quote by Ponyexpress
right would it sound good with a Vox AC30?


Do you play metal or heavy music at all? If your answer is no, skip the guitar and find one with passives.
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#7
Quote by no.mop
Do you play metal or heavy music at all? If your answer is no, skip the guitar and find one with passives.

yeah I play some but I like to mix it with cleans and stuff I play all sorts of stuff
Quote by no.mop
I think you'd better ask your amp...


They're EMG humbuckers...they clip a lot. Your cleans won't be nice, but they'll be passable.

what do you mean "clip"?
#8
Those pickups are meant to play very high-gain stuff...so playing them through an ac30 won't achieve very good results. If you like LP style guitars look for ones with PAF-type pickups to play through that amp.
#10
Quote by JayLacelle
Those pickups are meant to play very high-gain stuff...so playing them through an ac30 won't achieve very good results. If you like LP style guitars look for ones with PAF-type pickups to play through that amp.

well I do like to play some high gain stuff and I also like LP's but the main things that I like about the guitar are its floyd rose and 24 frets because those are both features I'd personally use a lot
#13
Quote by sgwielder
The EMG 60 can actually do fairly decent cleans, however I guess that depends on how picky your ear is for cleans.

I'm not to picky

Quote by salgala2000
1) If you have a vox AC30 metal won't sound good.
2) If you have EMG's clean won't sound good.

If you have a price range around 900$ maybe check out
1) Epiphone Custom
2) Gibson Studio
3) Japanese Fenders
4) lower end Carvin Guitar

I'm not like a metal elitist or anything what about stuff like hardcore and post-hardcore and punk would they sound good on an AC30?
#14
How did you get that picture off the ESP website and not know what it was? It's right there in the image properties.
#15
Quote by salgala2000
1) If you have a vox AC30 metal won't sound good.
2) If you have EMG's clean won't sound good.

If you have a price range around 900$ maybe check out
1) Epiphone Custom
2) Gibson Studio
3) Japanese Fenders
4) lower end Carvin Guitar


I don't completely agree with that. Those are nice clean platforms for high-gain pedals.

And second, please don't buy an epiphone les paul custom. They are around $300 more than the standard and the only difference is the finish and gold paint on the hardware. Complete waste of money IMO
#16
Quote by Ponyexpress
well I do like to play some high gain stuff and I also like LP's but the main things that I like about the guitar are its floyd rose and 24 frets because those are both features I'd personally use a lot


http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=cs6

http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=cs4

http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=cs3

LP/FR...The only guitar short of custom (or very expensive Gibson) that I can think of with those specs...24 frets is a tough one though...
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#17
Quote by Ponyexpress
I'm not to picky


I'm not like a metal elitist or anything what about stuff like hardcore and post-hardcore and punk would they sound good on an AC30?

It all depends on how picky your ear is. Of course AC30>MesaBoogie when it comes to metal but AC30 won't be that bad unless your super picky.
I'm not super rich so i can't afford to be super picky
#18
Quote by salgala2000
1) If you have a vox AC30 metal won't sound good.
2) If you have EMG's clean won't sound good.

If you have a price range around 900$ maybe check out
1) Epiphone Custom
2) Gibson Studio
3) Japanese Fenders
4) lower end Carvin Guitar

http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=tl60
that one's nice I could go for something cheaper though Epiphones would work except that the 24 fret ones don't have floyd rose and the floyd rose don't have 24 frets :/
#19
Quote by JayLacelle
And second, please don't buy an epiphone les paul custom. They are around $300 more than the standard and the only difference is the finish and gold paint on the hardware. Complete waste of money IMO

I wasn't reccomending them These were just the 4 that popped into my head as soon as I thought that price range.
Out of the 4, from what i can tell, I'd go with 1) Carvin 2)Gibson Studio or Faded
#20
Quote by Ponyexpress
http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=tl60
that one's nice I could go for something cheaper though Epiphones would work except that the 24 fret ones don't have floyd rose and the floyd rose don't have 24 frets :/

Schecter makes nice guitars that have 24 frets and floyd roses. I would get one with seymour duncan pickups not EMG's

EDIT: plus they have a nice website
#21
I'm sticking with the ac30 it's versatile and has good high and low gain tones but right now I'm trying to figure out what guitar to get what is cheapest and most versatile out of these epiphones:
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=296&CollectionID=18
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=298&CollectionID=18
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=303&CollectionID=18
#23
Quote by salgala2000
Schecter makes nice guitars that have 24 frets and floyd roses. I would get one with seymour duncan pickups not EMG's

EDIT: plus they have a nice website

probably a bit expensive though right?
#24
Quote by salgala2000
Here's some schecters:
BLACKJACK ATX C-1 FR (has seymour duncan actives (i prefer passives))
C-1 STANDARD FR (duncan designed pickups which aren't great)
C-1 CUSTOM FR (perfect but not sure about price range)

oh thanks I think that one in the middle might be a good price for me too I probably am going to have to go with something cheaper then what I originally posted and if the pickups aren't fantastic I could probably switch them out for something better right?

So right now I'm trying to decide between:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-Guitar-Research-C1-FR-Standard-Electric-Guitar?sku=584531
and
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=298&CollectionID=18
#25
Quote by Ponyexpress
oh thanks I think that one in the middle might be a good price for me too I probably am going to have to go with something cheaper then what I originally posted and if the pickups aren't fantastic I could probably switch them out for something better right?

So right now I'm trying to decide between:
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Schecter-Guitar-Research-C1-FR-Standard-Electric-Guitar?sku=584531
and
http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=298&CollectionID=18


Between those two, the Epiphone has better hardware...it will make you hate your Floyd Rose way less than the Schecter. The Floyd Rose Special on the Schecter isn't that great quality.
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#26
I have an Agile LP which has EMGs in it (81\85 combo) and it handles cleans just fine, the EMG 60 which that guitar has in the neck is supposed to be the best EMG for cleans. Utilize the volume control on your guitar and you will have no problem getting a nice clean sound from EMGs.
#27
Quote by Shabadoo
I have an Agile LP which has EMGs in it (81\85 combo) and it handles cleans just fine, the EMG 60 which that guitar has in the neck is supposed to be the best EMG for cleans. Utilize the volume control on your guitar and you will have no problem getting a nice clean sound from EMGs.


Ehh.. The 60 still doesn't sound that great and the 81/85 in my Ibanez sound pretty bad. The SA's can get nice cleans, but I wouldn't rate the humbuckers much above passable.
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#28
Quote by no.mop
Between those two, the Epiphone has better hardware...it will make you hate your Floyd Rose way less than the Schecter. The Floyd Rose Special on the Schecter isn't that great quality.

but the schecter would sound a lot better right?
#30
Quote by Ponyexpress
but the schecter would sound a lot better right?


A lot better? Certainly not. It's hard to say which would even sound better; neither of the guitars have very good pickups.
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#33
Quote by no.mop
Ehh.. The 60 still doesn't sound that great and the 81/85 in my Ibanez sound pretty bad. The SA's can get nice cleans, but I wouldn't rate the humbuckers much above passable.


Hmm, I just back off the out put with the volume controls and I get some very nice cleans. It doesn't sound as nice as the neck pup of my strat, but then again most things don't as far as cleans go.
#36
The ESP can actually handle cleans quite well. As well as distortion. I have a friend who plays in a post-rock band here in Idaho, and he plays almost strictly on his neck pickup, the EMG 60, and it sounds fabulous clean, overdriven, or distorted. He uses a B-52 AT-100 and match 4x12 cab, and all in all it works quite well for him. It almost makes me want the EC-1000.
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