#1
I just bought a 50W Kustom Defender amplifier. I tried it with my DS-1 and it sounds terrible. Is it supposed to? Are all tube amps react with such distortion pedals like that? Are there any distortion pedals specifically for tube amps? Can I do something to make my ds-1 sound better?
#2
Mod it. Lots of people don't like stock DS-1s.

There's no such thing as a distortion pedal made specifically for a certain amp, and no, not all tubes react with distortion pedals like that.

How do you feel about the amp's distortion? It probably sounds better than your DS-1.
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#3
It all depends, I tried a DS-1 on my Defender and it sounded terrible. I now use a ML-2 and it sounds great (I use it in combination with the drive from the amp to stack the distortion).

Remember that tweaking the EQ on your amp will also make a big difference when using distortion pedals, especially on the Kustom Defender (my experience).
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#4
What you are hearing is a DS-1 in all it's glory.
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#5
In my experience I've found that tube amps and distortion do not mix well. It gets way too muddy. You could work with the tone a bit- keep the treble up, the mids down and the bass a little higher than mids. The DS-1 is a classic distortion but there are probably better options that would work with your amp. I'd check out the big muff distortions- maybe try the American. I own the Russian and when I used it with my bassman (tube) it was hard to get a good tone if I turned the amp past 3 on the volume.
#7
I use my DS-1 with my all-tube Crate, and it doesn't sound good, it's not the amp, it's the pedal.
It's just not a good one..
#8
I have a DS-1 in my GP-8 which I've owned for around 30 years. It's the one effect that never gets turned on. I don't care what anybody says, they are a dreadful pedal. The Scandinavian buzzsaw crowd should keep them away from general society so we can regulate their usage against unsuspecting public..

They are however a good basis for modding. LOTS of modding.
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#9
Quote by Flyby8
I just bought a 50W Kustom Defender amplifier. I tried it with my DS-1 and it sounds terrible. Is it supposed to? Are all tube amps react with such distortion pedals like that? Are there any distortion pedals specifically for tube amps? Can I do something to make my ds-1 sound better?


Get a Keeley Mod for the DS-1. It will make a big difference...
#10
the ds-1 has got it's place. it shouldn't be your only distortion though...
it's like satan's treble booster.
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#11
The DS1 will probably work better as a dirty boost, turn the gain right down, turn the volume up and use it over the amp's distortion
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#12
Thanks guys, I'll probably try modding it and I'll also check out these other pedals you were talking about. I also used the Digitech Grunge pedal. Both of them suited REALLY nice with the Orange Crush 30R, but with the Kustom Defender it's like a terrible fuzz or smth. Well, good thing Grunge has a mixer and an amp outputs, so now I use the mixer output. No, I don't really like the amps distortion so much. I need a heavier one. I tried changing the amp's settings but it wasn't much use.
#13
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Thanks guys, I'll probably try modding it and I'll also check out these other pedals you were talking about. I also used the Digitech Grunge pedal. Both of them suited REALLY nice with the Orange Crush 30R, but with the Kustom Defender it's like a terrible fuzz or smth. Well, good thing Grunge has a mixer and an amp outputs, so now I use the mixer output. No, I don't really like the amps distortion so much. I need a heavier one. I tried changing the amp's settings but it wasn't much use.

Which is why you should try using the pedal over it, the DS1 isn't the best choice admittedly but it could do a job for you - like I said back the gain off.

Failing that you probably want to be looking at some kind of overdrive pedal instead
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Quote by Flyby8
Thanks guys, I'll probably try modding it and I'll also check out these other pedals you were talking about. I also used the Digitech Grunge pedal. Both of them suited REALLY nice with the Orange Crush 30R, but with the Kustom Defender it's like a terrible fuzz or smth. Well, good thing Grunge has a mixer and an amp outputs, so now I use the mixer output. No, I don't really like the amps distortion so much. I need a heavier one. I tried changing the amp's settings but it wasn't much use.


If you want something heavier than the Keeley DS-1 then check the Keeley MT-2.

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#15
I think you might need to invest in an OD. If you can, try your amp with either a tube screamer (Ibanez or Maxon) or, for much cheaper, a Digitech Bad Monkey (which isn't too bad for the price)

There are better choices out there, but they're the two that spring to mind instantly. The Jetter ODs are supposedly really good, but expensive.