Poll: Which one?
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View poll results: Which one?
Strat
5 14%
Tele
12 34%
Intrepid 828
18 51%
Voters: 35.
#1
As stated in the name, should i get a Fender Standard Strat($500), a Fender Standard Telecaster($500), or and Agile intrepid 828($489-565). I love extended range guitars(Agile), but also need a 6 string guitar with a hardtail style bridge(Tele), but i do enjoy versatile and the bluesy tone(Strat). So as you can see, I am highly torn between all three guitars. So I need opinions and experiences with them that you guys have.
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#2
Although Strats and Teles are very different from Intrepids, i would say go for the intrepid for the following reasons:

- Technically speaking, anything that can be played on a 6 string you can play on an 8
- if you get an intrepid with passives, you can wire it for a coil split to achieve true single coil tones. If you get one with EMGs, you can buy the EMG40TW, which is a bass pickup with coil splitting capability.
- I love 8 strings

Note that coil splitting probably wont soiund quite as close to a strat or tele as the real thing, so its a toss up. Take your pick.
#4
Quote by Ippon
You obviously need all 3. Duh!



This clearly, but if I were to pick which to buy first... The 8 string hands down
#5
Here's the thing, Strats and Teles will be around forever, and you're always going to be able to find a good deal on one or a good customized one or something like that. They're dime-a-dozen instruments. You never know if Agile will fold or something and you lose the great deal on the eight-strings.

And there's the matter of experimenting and trying new things. You could buy a Strat or Tele with the right tone and feel you want, and then start playing the same old thing you do on your other guitars on it, or you could get the eight-string and challenge yourself.

I'd say it's a no-brainer. There's always time to get a great six-string, but now is a golden age of sorts for the eight-string.
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#6
Ok, i had an epiphany in the shower. I want the 8 string. Which one do I get. http://www.rondomusic.com/product3225.html (a blemished pro model) or
http://www.rondomusic.com/product2850.html (a brand new standard model)
I've begun to gravitate towards passive electronics again(as evident by installing dimarzios into my C7 hellraiser) But i don't have the extra money for replacing the stock passive in the standard. I don't know how good the pickups will be.
I do know that EMG's quality is consistent and great in the low end. But i got bored of the active sound. Obviously, I don't care about the neck heels. The difference between a good bolt-on and a neck-thru is negligible. Also, how's the neck thickness on these? I love meaty necks a la Schecter.
I've also heard there is break angle problems at the bridge due to not enough neck angle. So if i bought the standard, I could just throw a shim under the neck and set it up. Unless this is an unfounded fear. The only deciding factor is the pickup.

TL;DR, Pro with EMG or standard with passive?
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Last edited by shaggydogJV at Jul 17, 2010,
#7
Bah, that blem model is MINE, bitches! D:

But seriously, either is fine.
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#8
Dude get the blemished one. You save 100 bucks and its not like it's blemished with a crack or something they just put a bit too much paint on one part
#9
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#10
Id get the Oceanburst one. I have the same guitar but in bloodburst. Sounds and plays great.
#12
If you're putting an 8 string against 2 Fender instruments, I think it's obvious that the 8 string is not something you'd use extensively and more than likely end up realizing it was just a blind buy to get something cool. That's what happened when i got my 7 string. It's even worse in this case, because an Agile will never have the resale value that a better-known company's guitar will. You'll lose a big chunk of money when you want to get rid of it.

Also, playing songs on an 8 string that are written for a 6 string is nowhere near the same as playing them on a 6 string. You'll also never get a strat or tele sound out of it. You can get something kinda similar-ish, but never the same.

On the other hand, it's a lot easier to coax a tele-ish sound out of a strat or vice-versa.

I think the choice is obviously narrowed down to the tele and strat, but that's just my opinion on it.
Last edited by Pac_man0123 at Jul 18, 2010,
#17
Tbh I would say the strat as it is original, and is one of the most popular guitar shapes
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#18
Quote by macca_oh8
Tbh I would say the strat as it is original, and is one of the most popular guitar shapes

Tbh, that's ridiculous logic.

I'd recommend the Intrepid, and modify it someway that will allow you to get bluesy tones (new pups, coil split, etc.) and then you can play some sweet extended range blues.
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#19
Quote by Pac_man0123
If you're putting an 8 string against 2 Fender instruments, I think it's obvious that the 8 string is not something you'd use extensively and more than likely end up realizing it was just a blind buy to get something cool. That's what happened when i got my 7 string. It's even worse in this case, because an Agile will never have the resale value that a better-known company's guitar will. You'll lose a big chunk of money when you want to get rid of it.

Also, playing songs on an 8 string that are written for a 6 string is nowhere near the same as playing them on a 6 string. You'll also never get a strat or tele sound out of it. You can get something kinda similar-ish, but never the same.

On the other hand, it's a lot easier to coax a tele-ish sound out of a strat or vice-versa.

I think the choice is obviously narrowed down to the tele and strat, but that's just my opinion on it.


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#20
Quote by DaddyTwoFoot

I'd recommend the Intrepid, and modify it someway that will allow you to get bluesy tones (new pups, coil split, etc.) and then you can play some sweet extended range blues.
It's a mostly maple super-Strat with one active humbucker and one volume control. I don't know how you could mod it to even get a standard rock tone out of it, let alone a blues tone. Bloody nora, people.
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#21
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It's a mostly maple super-Strat with one active humbucker and one volume control. I don't know how you could mod it to even get a standard rock tone out of it, let alone a blues tone. Bloody nora, people.

Put in a passive pick-up, mayhaps? Sounds like a mod to me.
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#22
A passive pickup does not blues tones make.
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#23
Quote by MrFlibble
A passive pickup does not blues tones make.

It does if you get ones that are designed for such a tone.

I'm not an idiot, so please don't treat me like one. You mentioned the active pickup, which is the most easily moddable part of the guitar and also the part that probably most affects the tone. It's not like being a super-Strat disqualifies the guitar from getting a blues tone. He could order an 8-string pickup from Bareknuckle and play some super sexy 8-string blues.
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#24
Really, really not. Firstly, the pickup doesn't effect your tone anywhere nears as much as the wood and construction of the guitar does; a neck-through maple guitar is always going to sound like a neck-through maple guitar. Secondly, it really is nowhere near as simple as just sticking a passive pickup in, especially with an extended range guitar. You try making a passive pickup that has the warmth and range of a typical blues pickup that will do its job in the bridge position of a neck-through maple guitar while keeping the 7th and 8th strings clear; it's not going to happen, at least not with any standard passive design. There certainly are obscure designs you could use (a 5/3 split pickup, for example - although good luck getting one of those made to 808 dimensions for any less than £250), but nothing as simple as you're suggesting.
Not to mention, such a pickup would be so highly specialised that OP would be trapped with that one tone and buggered if they then wanted to get a rock or metal tone out of it, unless they were to use something like a modelling or MIDI system (in which case, bugger it all and by a Variax guitar).

There's a damn good reason why Peter Green never picked up a single-pickup shred machine.
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