#1
hey guys i've narrowed my amp buying choice to either the marshall jvm 205h or the jcm 2000 dsl 100h

Those who have properly tried both amps, what would you suggest?
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#2
If your going for a dsl go for the 50w head. its alot cheaper and apparently it sounds better.
#4
ah k awesome
yeah just wondering because personally, i really, really dig the cleans on the jvm but yeah, was just seeing what other peoples opinions were
if theres any other opinions just chuck them up on here
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#5
I haven't played either, but the JVM gets alot of hate.

I've also heard the DSL only really sounds good with a boost in front.

I like the sounds Satch gets out of his JVMs, though.
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#6
and what do you mean by the JVM getting alot of hate

like, what for?
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and what do you mean by the JVM getting alot of hate

like, what for?


for being awful.
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#8
Quote by chivesmcpoe
and what do you mean by the JVM getting alot of hate

like, what for?

It means that there's a lot of (ridiculous) Marshall hate going on here.
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#10
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It means that there's a lot of (ridiculous) Marshall hate going on here.


they just really overpriced...i'd imagine even more so in oz.
but then again everything else probably costs 12 million smooth rocks or whatever currency they use over there.
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#11
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they just really overpriced...i'd imagine even more so in oz.
but then again everything else probably costs 12 million smooth rocks or whatever currency they use over there.

We call them dollars too - but ours are prettier.
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they just really overpriced...i'd imagine even more so in oz.
but then again everything else probably costs 12 million smooth rocks or whatever currency they use over there.

Jack-ass

Marshall in Australia is one of the more cheap brands over here. I think thats since its the most common and popular, there are plenty on the used market and you can pick them up for like half the price of just about anything else.
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#13
Damn straight. You can buy 5 Marshalls for the price of a Mesa and people live in houses that cost less than a proper Fender.
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they just really overpriced...i'd imagine even more so in oz.
but then again everything else probably costs 12 million smooth rocks or whatever currency they use over there.

Their pricing here in Europe is okay IMO.


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Why those 2 amps?
Genres/Bands you play?
Budget?
etc.
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#15
Quote by AcousticMirror
they just really overpriced...i'd imagine even more so in oz.
but then again everything else probably costs 12 million smooth rocks or whatever currency they use over there.


The JVM205 isn't that overpriced for what it is...

At any rate you can get 'em for cheaper used.
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#17
k thanks guys
i could get a jvm used from the us for bout a grand or maybe less, so thats why im considering that


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Why those 2 amps?
Genres/Bands you play?
Budget?
etc.


basically their the two ive been looking at for a while but im still totally open to whatever
basically i guess loosely playing hard rock, but still blues and also high-gain sort of stuff so i guess versatility is kinda key
and wouldnt be much over a grand, gotta save money for schoolies too so yeah, not too much hopefully :P
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#18
They sold a lot of Laney AORs out here. Worth keeping an eye out for a good one of those too.
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#19
Quote by chivesmcpoe
ah k awesome
yeah just wondering because personally, i really, really dig the cleans on the jvm but yeah, was just seeing what other peoples opinions were
if theres any other opinions just chuck them up on here


get the dsl 50 watt i have it and id say its the best marshall ive ever had (for the price i paid for it) tsl 60 watt is also good lead channel has a little extra gain compared to other marshalls if ur planing on buying it new you should look at second hand jcm800's for around the same price
#20
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Neither are great amps. Both pretty thin sounding IMO. Marshall make great amps, but I'm just not a fan of the new high gain ones.


the dsl and the jvm are definitely nowhere near thin sounding
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#21
Oddly enough, I'm looking for a versatile amp that will go from clean to high gain and have gain stages inbetween with the ability to boost every channel for leads and I find it hard to get past a Marshall JVM 100w with 4 channels. To me it seems to be extremely versatile and I wouldn't have thought it's a turkey if Joe Satriani's using one. It's not like we're talking Zakk Wylde's endorsement of MG amps here!! It seems you can pick one up used in the region of £600 and in all honesty, what else is available that's better and just as versatile for that kind of price? I'd thought of a Laney TT50 but it sounds a bit generic to me and the only other one that leapt to mind was the Blackstar HT Stage 100w. Now I really did fancy that one but recently I've started to notice a number of posts on the internet from people who have bought these amps and they've broken down. I suppose a Bugera gives you a lot of bang for your buck and apparently they sound superb but here the reliability issues are even worse. I'd maybe still consider the Blackstar but other than that I'm not sure what I'd have instead of a JVM.
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#22
is 4 channels automatically better then 2?
do you seriously use all 4 channels when you play out?
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#23
No, I wouldn't, but I would use three. In the Rock covers band I play in I use three core tones: Clean, hot rodded JCM800 kind of tone and high gain. The 4 channel JVM will provide all of that and all be programmed into the first three buttons on the footswitch. You could then repeat those tones on the next three buttons but use Master Volume 2 to boost the volume for solos. As I say; very versatile. For all of that, I really wanted to like the Blackstar and I do, but all those reports of poor reliability are a bit worrying.
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#24
The JVM is far better than the DSL. I've owned both.

The lead channel on the DSL makes me want to cry. It's the thinnest fuzziest thing I've ever heard.

Get the JVM or a Laney VH100R
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#25
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the dsl and the jvm are definitely nowhere near thin sounding


+ 100,000,000

I get huge phat tone with my DSL 100 1960AV halfstack.

I love the DSL 100 so much, I have 3 of 'em.
#26
k thanks heaps for all your suggestions guys
the JVM is MUCH CHEAPER than what it normally retails for, thats why im considering that
so yeah, i think ive narrowed it down to the JVM, if any one wants to keep suggesting or whatever, throw it up here
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#27
I've had both JVM and DSL. They are both awesome amps. It depends what you are looking for though. The cleans on the DSL are to die for, where as the cleans on the jvm arn't bad, but distort easier. Which leads to a few problems for me, like figuring out what levels to set everything. And the crunch setting sucks on the JVM in my experience. For me, it change the voice of the amp too much.

If you want to keep it simple, get a DSL. If you are wiling to learn how use a JVM to its potential, get one, because swapping out the DSL for a JVM turned out to be the best choice I've made gear wise.

One big turning point for me was the midi in/out. I just got a Nova System. So I can use it to change channels and presets at the same time. The DSL is simple, and tends to sound better with effects and stomps in the front of the amp.

Just be aware, whilst they are both good amps, but they are completely different. A JVM is a monster, its taming thats the problem.

But also to mention, I use a JVM410h, so again, it could be a little different in your case.
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#28
ah k stueey thanks heaps
yeah the 4 seems much more complex to use and get your desirable sound out of due to the f**kload of controls you have at disposal. like you said, a monster that has to be tamed

the 2 channel seems waaaaaay more streamlined, so hmmmmmm
going to try them out again tomorrow with my own guitar no exactly what im getting
hopefully all good
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