#1
So i got to thinking, a friend of mine is doing his work experience at his local library, for $5 a day, and i wanted to ask you guys something, does work experience matter a whole lot? i mean, he only really just figured out he wants to find a job in the music industry, and now he's worried because he chose to do his WE in his local library

Also, can you do work experience more than once in high school these days?
#2
Any work experience will look good on a resume. If its relevant to what you want to get into then its even better.
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#3
Work experience matters a whole lot.

The more the better, and it doesn't necessarily have to be in the field you later want to work in.

And what do you mean, "do work exp. more than once"?
#4
^ You know, when the school organizes you to go on work experience at a place of your choice for a week

Does that make sense
#5
Work Experience as in the school thing he means.

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#6
Some things it does matter, doesn't for most though. Can't see him needing it for music.

Ya, you can do it more than once, though it has to be done in your opwn time, usually not during school time (I spent my summer last year doing two months of veterinary work experience). If he really wants to get the course whatever and needs the experience, he really shouldn't have a problem doing it in his own time.
#7
Quote by KvltLord
^ You know, when the school organizes you to go on work experience at a place of your choice for a week

Does that make sense

I've never heard of that before.

Why don't you just go and get a job and get exp. that way?
#8
I tell you what, worrying about Work Experience is pretty kvlt
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#9
Quote by KvltLord
So i got to thinking, a friend of mine is doing his work experience at his local library, for $5 a day, and i wanted to ask you guys something, does work experience matter a whole lot? i mean, he only really just figured out he wants to find a job in the music industry, and now he's worried because he chose to do his WE in his local library

Also, can you do work experience more than once in high school these days?

It matters alot. One of the most important things, if not the most important thing.
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#10
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Any work experience will look good on a resume.

Wrong
Quote by CoreysMonster
Work experience matters a whole lot.

Also wrong.

School work experience means nothing. Tell your friend he's an idiot for thinking that working with books might ruin his chance at working in the music industry.
#11
Quote by Butt Rayge
Wrong

Also wrong.

School work experience means nothing. Tell your friend he's an idiot for thinking that working with books might ruin his chance at working in the music industry.

I thought he meant actual work experience, as in having a job.

You can't tell me having a job in high school doesn't count as work experience.
#12
Quote by metacarpi
I tell you what, worrying about Work Experience is pretty kvlt


Your a funny man, i like that


Quote by Butt Rayge
Wrong

Also wrong.

School work experience means nothing. Tell your friend he's an idiot for thinking that working with books might ruin his chance at working in the music industry.


Will do
#13
Quote by Butt Rayge
Wrong

Also wrong.

School work experience means nothing. Tell your friend he's an idiot for thinking that working with books might ruin his chance at working in the music industry.

How is that wrong?
Any experience will look good on a resume. Before I got my first job I had been told, by potential employers, that they were looking for people with more experience.
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#14
Quote by CoreysMonster
I've never heard of that before.

Why don't you just go and get a job and get exp. that way?
It's something schools do where for a certain year level (for me it was Year 10, when I was 15-16), you'd spend one or two weeks (I forget... many years ago <.< away from school, working instead.

This is a way of giving everyone a taste of work life, get some experience, and hopefully help them obtain employment in the future, whether it's an after-school job, or something they get when they complete school.

Of course, it's MUCH easier to get a position with Work Experience, because you're basically working on slave-labour wages (yeah, $5 a day, roughly), employers are much more likely to take people in that way, than paying them full wages.

It's a lot harder to secure a real job in this day and age, especially when you're young and have absolutely no experience.
#15
if your from England and your on about what you do in year 10 or 11 (i forget) no it doesn't matter at all and it is a complete waste of time. Tell your mate not to worry.
Ah i just saw the $ sign in your post. Ignore my reply it means nothing if your not from here.
Last edited by Burningritual at Jul 19, 2010,
#16
Quote by Butt Rayge
Wrong

Also wrong.

School work experience means nothing. Tell your friend he's an idiot for thinking that working with books might ruin his chance at working in the music industry.

If you think that gaining the experience of work and learning what you'd need to do as an employee later on means nothing, you're a bigger idiot than his friend.
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#17
For my work experiance, I worked in a shop. I realized that when I put on the shop uniform, people would begin to look straight through you and ignore you, as if you were a service or commodity to be abused rather than a human being. 'Wait a minute' I thought, what if I had turned invisible?!
I went to the shop superviser and asked him if he could see me. 'What?!' he cried 'Where is that voice coming from?!'
Then I thought, if I am invisible to the eye, perhaps I have no physical presense at all! I walked towards a wall, increasing my speed with each step. My teeth were gritted in determination. I broke into a sprint and smashed into the wall, breaking my nose and knocking out some teeth. 'Ahhhh', I shouted, 'Arrrg!'
The people in the shop could not see me, only hear my yelps of pain, and began to run from the shop. Anyways, they thought it was a ghost and the shop later went on 'most haunted' lololololololol.
I took off the shop uniform and I was visible once more. Living in an unfree country, full of socialist weasels and soccerball players, I got free healthcare and made a full recovery

Edit: if it's exp. you're worried about, I hear you can get more of that by going into long grass and fighting pokemon
Last edited by pag_slash_2 at Jul 19, 2010,
#18
Quote by Butt Rayge
School work experience means nothing.
Sir I say sir, I put it to you that you are an idiot.


School work experience may not be much, (as it's only 1-2 weeks), but it can definitely be beneficial. It gives people a taste of the working world, and can give people some of the skills and experience they may need when looking for their first job. Even just 1-2 weeks of working in customer service or retail might be enough to get potential employers to consider you over someone who hasn't worked a day in his life.

It can also give you other life skills and experiences, depending on what you do.

I worked for a custom furniture designer who worked with exotic woods.
I ended up deciding not to become a carpenter, but I could definitely have used my experiences to help me obtain an apprenticeship, or further possible employment as an extra hand.
I helped construct and finish some wonderful exotic furniture that cost hundreds, sometimes a couple of thousand dollars. For Melbournians - if you go to the Melbourne Immigration Museum. Look at the fantastic reception desk - I helped build that. It's made out of petrified wood. That shit can be rare, and very expensive.

I ended up getting further work with him later in the year to finish working on Christmas sales for him.
To this day, I still list this in my resume, even though it was only a couple of weeks. Because it was good, honest, damned hard work.


So work experience means nothing?

Blow me.


EDIT:
Quote by dann_blood
If you think that gaining the experience of work and learning what you'd need to do as an employee later on means nothing, you're a bigger idiot than his friend.

Too right, sire.
You need all the experience you can get, in these competitive days.
Last edited by Scourge at Jul 19, 2010,
#19
Without work experience, getting a real job is damn hard. I'm going to be working over the next 6 weeks redecorating and repairing a school, just so that I can put something in the 'prior experience' box when applying for a job.
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#20
Quote by KvltLord
i wanted to ask you guys something, does work experience matter a whole lot? i mean, he only really just figured out he wants to find a job in the music industry, and now he's worried because he chose to do his WE in his local library

:


Never turn down trying something new. It could lead him in a whole different direction and/or not limit him as to what kind of jobs he could do.
Years ago I had an internship in a studio that did radio commercials. Someone had to catalog ALL the masters that were made every day and find older masters that were made several years ago. Plus find production music and sound FX. That stuff wasn't just tossed on a shelf. You had to find stuff right then right now and get them to the engineer before He even thought of needing that piece. Especially when the the client was paying hundreds of dollars per hr.
So I don't see this hurting him in anyway. Gotta start somewhere.
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#21
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It's something schools do where for a certain year level (for me it was Year 10, when I was 15-16), you'd spend one or two weeks (I forget... many years ago <.< away from school, working instead.

This is a way of giving everyone a taste of work life, get some experience, and hopefully help them obtain employment in the future, whether it's an after-school job, or something they get when they complete school.

Of course, it's MUCH easier to get a position with Work Experience, because you're basically working on slave-labour wages (yeah, $5 a day, roughly), employers are much more likely to take people in that way, than paying them full wages.

It's a lot harder to secure a real job in this day and age, especially when you're young and have absolutely no experience.


This pretty much, school Work Experience is just for you to get some experience in the real world.

Also over here we don't get paid shit for it.
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#22
Quote by dann_blood
If you think that gaining the experience of work and learning what you'd need to do as an employee later on means nothing, you're a bigger idiot than his friend.

Okay, it doesn't mean nothing, that was an understatement. In my town though, you have to have more than a few days high school work placement on a resume to get anything. To the employers in my town, that work experience means next to nothing.
#23
Quote by Todd Hart
Without work experience, getting a real job is damn hard. I'm going to be working over the next 6 weeks redecorating and repairing a school, just so that I can put something in the 'prior experience' box when applying for a job.
Paid or voluntary?
Either way, good on you man. I wish I'd put more effort into getting some good experience before starting a job search one year out of high school. Christ, it was difficult. Even with a couple of jobs under my belt a couple of years later, it was still difficult to get the job I have at the moment.
With the experience I have now - while not guaranteed - I'd say I have a substantially high chance of getting work wherever I want in retail and sales. Do bloody everything you can, get your hands on everything. I'm just a lowly customer service salesman, but I've gotten admin experience (amongst a plethora of other skills), purely from the motivation to gain more experience for future employment opportunities.

Todd Hart, if that work you're doing is voluntary, then goddamn good on you. That's the best thing you can put in your resume, that you've worked without pay, because it shows you're motivated, and willing to rise to the challenge.
#24
Quote by Butt Rayge
Okay, it doesn't mean nothing, that was an understatement. In my town though, you have to have more than a few days high school work placement on a resume to get anything. To the employers in my town, that work experience means next to nothing.

And what's going to happen when there aren't any more workers with prior experience? What's going to happen when you go out of town to get a job? What's going to happen when you get a job?

You'll already have gone over the learning curve of working, that is invaluable to an employer who is hiring younger employees.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to put it, along with your other advice, into a book, the pages of which I will then use to wipe my ass.
#25
Quote by dann_blood
And what's going to happen when there aren't any more workers with prior experience? What's going to happen when you go out of town to get a job? What's going to happen when you get a job?

You'll already have gone over the learning curve of working, that is invaluable to an employer who is hiring younger employees.

Apparantley not around here.


I know I was wrong in saying it was worthless as obviously it's not the same everywhere, but in my personal experience it hasn't helped much.