#1
Hi , a noob question here. Whats exactly ''cranking up'' an all tube amp ?
What's the effect of it ?
What must we do to the gain while the amp is '' cranked up ''
Using mesa single rectifier head.
#2
Cranking up an amp = turning up the volume.
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#3
Cranked = turned up loud.

It pushes more signal into the power tubes, causing them to distort.

Gain is preamp distortion, generally, so you'll probably want to turn down the gain, so you don't have too much distortion fizzing (rectifiering) up your sound.
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#4
what do I have to put up to crank the volume ?
The MASTER volume of the channel OR the OUTPUT volume ?
#5
well if your amp is too low your tubes won't be fully on and can f*ck things up. how do you have a mesa single rec and not know jack shit about amps
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well if your amp is too low your tubes won't be fully on and can f*ck things up.


This isn't true at all.
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#7
I'm just asking whats making the tubes hotter, the output volume up or the master volume of the channel up ?
#8
What do you mean by "hotter"? Physically hotter, or hotter sounding?
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#10
it means raising it up off the ground.


these guys are messing with you TS!
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well if your amp is too low your tubes won't be fully on and can f*ck things up.s


Yeah, that's not true at all.

The tubes will get pysically hotter when you leave them turned on for ages, this isn't a bad thing, it'll make the amp sound better, all tubes die and need replacing in time.
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#12
I heard that when the tubes are physically hotter, the tone is better ?
#13
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I heard that when the tubes are physically hotter, the tone is better ?


This is true.
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#14
ok, so to get the tubes to be hotter I have to turn up the output AND the master volume ? The two of them have an effect on the temperature of the tubes ?
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it means raising it up off the ground.


these guys are messing with you TS!

+1

I've always heard this used to mean cranking up the jack your amp sits on. You guys do keep your amps on jacks, don't you? DON'T YOU?
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#16
I keep mine in the fridge.
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well if your amp is too low your tubes won't be fully on and can f*ck things up. how do you have a mesa single rec and not know jack shit about amps

oh the irony.

i think i've seen it all today

Cranking up an amp, as people have said, is just turning the volume up very loud so that you are running the power tubes at maximum amplitude (or beyond, for a very responsive distorted tone) as this will give you a better quality signal than running at lower volumes.
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#18
guys. so helpful. good job. sheeeeeeeeeeesh.

op. both. gain dimed. master dimed. presence dimed. mids dimed. bass dimed. treble at noon.
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+1

I've always heard this used to mean cranking up the jack your amp sits on. You guys do keep your amps on jacks, don't you? DON'T YOU?


i do keep my orange/tweaker set up on a 3 guitar stand. it angles the sound up and keeps my neighbor below me from freaking if i turn it up a bit. srsly, not kidding. it's actually perfect for it.
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guys. so helpful. good job. sheeeeeeeeeeesh.

op. both. gain dimed. master dimed. presence dimed. mids dimed. bass dimed. treble at noon.

treble at noon for any reason?
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#21
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well if your amp is too low your tubes won't be fully on and can f*ck things up. how do you have a mesa single rec and not know jack shit about amps



funniest thing i've heard all day...
#22
Cranked typically means having the power section running at high levels with whatever level of preamp distortion (usually high) that you desire (if you can control them separately).

I generally run my 2204 with the Master at 6 - 10, or 1:00 to 5:00.
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#23
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+1

I've always heard this used to mean cranking up the jack your amp sits on. You guys do keep your amps on jacks, don't you? DON'T YOU?

Actually, I am more of a fan of the British-style winch from ceiling method. It allows me to get higher highs, lower lows, and simply put; moar tonez
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