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#1
Well, the title pretty much explains it all but I think I'll cry a bit more:

You always see those "Japanese bonus track" and "Bonus tracks for Japanese release" things on CDs, but why? Why do people on Japan always get more songs than people on other countries? Why can't those bonus tracks also be on the other releases? And why Japan? It would be great if someone actually knew some really good reason for it, since I can't come up with any reason for it.
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#3
I heard it was because CDs cost more over there so they get more on them.



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#5
To keep them from sending their disturbing porn to America.
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#7
Slash's CD was bloody awful on this count. Every region got it's own bonus track, so there were three tracks recorded that no-one got. One of these, the Canadian one, had Alice Cooper, Steven Adler, and ****ing Flea on it. Given the big deal Slash made about working with Steven again, it pissed me off not being able to get to it.

So I used CliptoMP3 on the YouTube versions.
#8
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I heard it was because CDs cost more over there so they get more on them.

Well this is actually a good reason if it's true, but then Japan would have to be like the most expensive country when it comes to CDs, since it would be really stupid to put Japanese bonus tracks because of that reason if there are other countries where CDs are more expensive but they don't get bonus tracks...
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Slash's CD was bloody awful on this count. Every region got it's own bonus track, so there were three tracks recorded that no-one got. One of these, the Canadian one, had Alice Cooper, Steven Adler, and ****ing Flea on it. Given the big deal Slash made about working with Steven again, it pissed me off not being able to get to it.

So I used CliptoMP3 on the YouTube versions.

Damn, that's just ridiculous
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#11
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To keep them from sending their disturbing porn to America.

That's also a good idea, but it's not working... That sick tentacle anime shit can't be stopped, it's spreading everywhere!!!
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#13
Things that are "special edition" or in some way better than the regular version of the product sell much better in Japan than regular products. The price of CD's over there also plays a role in it.
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#14
it has to do with the market, that's the way it works in japan, if they don't put this bonus tracks they will not sell that much
#15
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That's also a good idea, but it's not working... That sick tentacle anime shit can't be stopped, it's spreading everywhere!!!

Psh. That's nothing. You don't want to know what I've seen. The thing that upsets me most about it is that you can see them do the most upsetting things ever, yet they still blur out the genitals. What the hell is that?
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Slash's CD was bloody awful on this count. Every region got it's own bonus track, so there were three tracks recorded that no-one got. One of these, the Canadian one, had Alice Cooper, Steven Adler, and ****ing Flea on it. Given the big deal Slash made about working with Steven again, it pissed me off not being able to get to it.

So I used CliptoMP3 on the YouTube versions.


I'm okay, they're on Spotify
#17
Haven't you also noticed how strange those japanese bonus tracks are? And sometimes they're extremely epic. ...and that you can download them or listen to them on youtube.
#18
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Things that are "special edition" or in some way better than the regular version of the product sell much better in Japan than regular products. The price of CD's over there also plays a role in it.

Ok, that's kinda logical and good reason, thanks!
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#19
Queens of the Stone Age are always doing this. Era Vulgaris had 3 different "editions" and then every region had a couple of different bonus tracks at the end.
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#20
Ozzy and Zakk Wylde have done this as well.

It sucks hardcore as well since the bonus tracks ended up being the best of the entire album.
#21
Part of it prolly also has to do with actually releasing the song on the bonus track. They also know that some Americans/British/whatever will buy the bonus edition or deluxe edition for the bonus track. Hell, I'm a person who usually buys the deluxe.
#22
This is because non-Japanese CDs cost a lot more than Japanese produced CDs in Japan. So in order to compete on that market, most western music have extra tracks for the Japanese editions.
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#24
It's cause the japanese music stores charge way too much for the CDs and the multiple bonus tracks help to justify the CD price and act as an incentive to import the official CDs as opposed to buying them from other countries.
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#25
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Psh. That's nothing. You don't want to know what I've seen. The thing that upsets me most about it is that you can see them do the most upsetting things ever, yet they still blur out the genitals. What the hell is that?

As an American living in Japan, that stuff still freaks me out. The reason they blur it out though is because it's illegal to show the genitals in Japan. And, yeah everything is more expensive here.

As far as the CDs go it's got to do with the exchange rate. The yen to dollar rate right now is about 86 Yen to the Dollar, but the defacto exchange rate is more like 100 Yen to the Dollar. A coke here costs 130 Yen, whereas back home it'll cost me $1.25. So their exchange rates are already getting screwed by how everyone rounds up to 100.
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#26
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I think it may have something to do with CDs always being released in Japan weeks before the western hemisphere.

I think it's normally the other way around.

Release time depends on the distributer, and for some reason Japan gets left behind occasionally.
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Slash's CD was bloody awful on this count. Every region got it's own bonus track, so there were three tracks recorded that no-one got. One of these, the Canadian one, had Alice Cooper, Steven Adler, and ****ing Flea on it. Given the big deal Slash made about working with Steven again, it pissed me off not being able to get to it.


Actually that song was released on the Classic Rock Magazine special edition version of the album, which was actually available through mail order in most countries. Though it pissed me off that a month before its release it was advertised as having that and the Slash, Fergie and Cypress Hill version of Paradise City as bonus tracks but didn't have Paradise City (though that was probably because the standard track list was changed to have both Myles Kennedy songs, so a fair trade-off)
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#30
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I heard it was because CDs cost more over there so they get more on them.


This is what I read also.
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#31
Buckethead's debut album was released in Japan. How much sense does that make? Well, he did do quite a bit over there early on...

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#32
About because CDs being more expensive:

Why aren't there Norwegian bonus tracks then; paying around $35 for a CD is bloody awful if you ask me.
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#33
BFMV did the same thing on Scream, Aim, Fire. And my favourite track was released in Japan. All I know is that they didn't get paid squat for that album cause it pissed me off.
#34
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About because CDs being more expensive:

Why aren't there Norwegian bonus tracks then; paying around $35 for a CD is bloody awful if you ask me.


lol norway

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#35
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Actually that song was released on the Classic Rock Magazine special edition version of the album, which was actually available through mail order in most countries. Though it pissed me off that a month before its release it was advertised as having that and the Slash, Fergie and Cypress Hill version of Paradise City as bonus tracks but didn't have Paradise City (though that was probably because the standard track list was changed to have both Myles Kennedy songs, so a fair trade-off)



Oh right, wasn't aware. Still, I missed the CR thing by a few weeks. I've also downloaded Paradise City, so fuck 'em.
#36
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lol norway

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Ever heard of the Swede who got more than 100 on an IQ test? Neither have I.

On topic, I guess they aren't much cheaper in Söta Bror either, are they?

EDIT: Just checked the Japanese prices; it's still cheaper than in Norway. It's probably due to inflation though.
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#37
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Ever heard of the Swede who got more than 100 on an IQ test? Neither have I.

On topic, I guess they aren't much cheaper in Söta Bror either, are they?


A new CD is around 20-25 USD here, so go record shopping over here.

Still too expensive though, but that's what you get in Scandinavia.
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#38
I'm a bonus track on my way to Japan
And I'm gonna be spread on Internet
I'm a bonus track, to Brazil and back
Enjoying worldwide fame

They'll screw the industry, pay no royalty
Burn me on CD, all illegally
Chinese bootlegs, Russian piracy
Cuthroat Germans they all copy me
And I don't give a shit, to me it's all the same
As long as I get all the fame
And the girls know my name
#39
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A new CD is around 20-25 USD here, so go record shopping over here.

Still too expensive though, but that's what you get in Scandinavia.


20$ is approximately the same as US prices, aren't they? Also, I've seen new CDs go for less than $20 here, but that's on, as you swedes call it: "rea".
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#40
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About because CDs being more expensive:

Why aren't there Norwegian bonus tracks then; paying around $35 for a CD is bloody awful if you ask me.


It's not a compensation for CDs being expensive in general. It's because IMPORTED CDs cost a lot more in Japan than JAPANESE PRODUCED CDs. So in order to make the Japanese people buy their imported music, western artists increase the "bang for the buck" factor by adding in a few extra tracks on the cds.

Sheesh, get it right people.

And also .. you live in norway, you should just listen to norwegian black metal and be happy.
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