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#1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxb58onvvbY

What do you think so far? I recorded the whole thing this time, minus the solo still. I did record the rythem track this time around rather then the solo because it's tough to do all of this in 1 take AND not mess up the solo. Plus it's hard to express the solo without a rythem behind it and recording it like this doesn't help.

Helpful criticism and critiquing would be appreciated

Here's the solo i promised (8/7/2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IeVBrB8inY

It's not without it's little mistakes here and there, but I didn't feel like doing it 50+ times till it was absolutely perfect.

**Note** I don't claim to be a Lead Guitar Player in terms of soloing, just a Rythem player with some lead potential. I still want critique for the solo, just remember that this is not my specialty, lol. Thank and enjoy
Last edited by bdof at Aug 7, 2010,
#2
That was really good

Quick question, Whats your setup because it sounded really cool and i didn't recognize any of it
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#3
Quote by 100%
That was really good

Quick question, Whats your setup because it sounded really cool and i didn't recognize any of it

Thanks, my set up is:

My custom guitar--->Boss TU-2--->Dunlop Zack Wylde Wah--->MXR Zack Wylde OD--->MXR 10-Band EQ--->Boss NS-2--->Boss DD-20--->100w Soldano Avenger--->Vader 2x12 & Vader 2x15

Want settings?

And NO I'm not that big of a fan of Zack Wylde, I just like those 2 pedals
Last edited by bdof at Jul 29, 2010,
#4
In the mean time i'll try recording the whole thing by the end of the week. Cheers y'all
#5
I agree with 100%, the sound is cool as hell
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#6
Quote by Simon Blackwing
I agree with 100%, the sound is cool as hell

I made 100% sure... that it was an ALL ORIGINAL song and not a carbon copy of any band I'm inspired by. Though I'll be the first to admit that like all musisians I borrowed ideas and Structures from other bands, Metal and un-metal alike
#7
It really was good and thanks for telling me your setup because im looking at getting a new one since all i have are a few pedals and a 15 watt line 6 spider 3 so i desperately need a new setup
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#8
Quote by 100%
It really was good and thanks for telling me your setup because im looking at getting a new one since all i have are a few pedals and a 15 watt line 6 spider 3 so i desperately need a new setup

Been there....yeah you need a new set up bad. Better get a job then kid
#9
Not at all bad second take. Metal's not really my thing, but I like the way its put together - from about 2:20 on definitely got my foot tapping!

On the recording front........... have you looked at Ubuntu Studio? It's package of apps for Ubuntu Linux that enables you to do pretty much anything - and it's FREE! Drum machines, keyboards/synths (using the computer keyboard if you don't have a real one), MIDI, guitar effects, backing track import etc etc. Much better than spending thousands of hardware........
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#10
Quote by growing0
Not at all bad second take. Metal's not really my thing, but I like the way its put together - from about 2:20 on definitely got my foot tapping!

On the recording front........... have you looked at Ubuntu Studio? It's package of apps for Ubuntu Linux that enables you to do pretty much anything - and it's FREE! Drum machines, keyboards/synths (using the computer keyboard if you don't have a real one), MIDI, guitar effects, backing track import etc etc. Much better than spending thousands of hardware........

Thanks, never really heard of that recording software. Maybe i'll give it a try
#11
You have some really awesome and original riffs, and as you transition from one riff to the another, they're perfectly woven together. I also like some of the rhythms, especially towards the end. Nice tone too, the Soldano sounds amazing. Put some drum parts and it'll sound fantastic.

Thanks for commenting on my work by the way!
#12
Thanks, I really would like to add some drum parts and record it properly....I'm just too lazy Thanks for the praise though
#13
Just updated video to the full version this.
Also using Delay in the needed sections too, enjoy!!!
#14
sounded nice and fat!
some of the riffs were really good!
propper enjoyed just listening to them, and its always better to see them actually played

you really need to get another geet track layed down and bass and drums, would sound even sicker with everything in place

your guitars quite sexual too, looks odd as ****, but all in a good way

sick tunes man keep it up
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#15
Appreciate it man. The guitar btw is a custom, i have another video of showing off the day i got it
#16
This is pretty badass! I like how dissonant the intro riff sounds. I can't say anything about the originality, it's pretty damn original. You've GOT to get an interface so you can record full songs. I know this would sound badass with some drums and bass. Some leads would fit nicely over that slower power chord riff, which is what I assume would be the chorus. My only criticism would be that at some point you put either a shitload of reverb, or delay on it. IMO, it sounded a little too wet, if you get what I'm saying. Anyhow, keep up the good work!

You, good sir, have not gone over to your friends house after a hard night of drinking to find 2 dudes passed out in the same room both holding their own flaccid cocks in hand, passed out, with porn on the tv.
#17
Thx man, i really appreciate the positive and suggestive criteque. I've thought about getting some kind of interface to record it properly with bass, an extra layer for certain guitar leads, and drum (though i don't think i'd be very good at creating drums) but i really don't know where to start. Especially since this laptop is so limited.

As for the reverb/delay comment: it is delay It's the pre-chorus though, with the chorus to directly follow. I just re-arranged my pedal arrangement so it seemed a little "wet" to me too. Also used it for the backtrack for the solo, but it's not so apparent because I don't use any palm mutes for that section

Anyways, thanks for the support. As soon as I'm not too lazy I'll get the bad boy rolling with some REAL prodution
#19
Quote by GuitarGod Tone
I really liked it really metal...btw what kind of guitar is that it looks awesome

It's my custom guitar. There a video of me showing it off the day i got it on my youtube profile
#20
Quote by bdof
Thx man, i really appreciate the positive and suggestive criteque. I've thought about getting some kind of interface to record it properly with bass, an extra layer for certain guitar leads, and drum (though i don't think i'd be very good at creating drums) but i really don't know where to start. Especially since this laptop is so limited.

As for the reverb/delay comment: it is delay It's the pre-chorus though, with the chorus to directly follow. I just re-arranged my pedal arrangement so it seemed a little "wet" to me too. Also used it for the backtrack for the solo, but it's not so apparent because I don't use any palm mutes for that section

Anyways, thanks for the support. As soon as I'm not too lazy I'll get the bad boy rolling with some REAL prodution



True. You don't really need a lot. You could just record into Audacity to add layers of guitar tracks. And for my drums, I just use a program called Drum Track. It's free, and it doesn't sound half bad when it's behind some music. That would be a start.

You, good sir, have not gone over to your friends house after a hard night of drinking to find 2 dudes passed out in the same room both holding their own flaccid cocks in hand, passed out, with porn on the tv.
#21
Thx man, I appreciated the knowledge being bestowed upon me, lol
#22
Great riffs, good tone (That guitar is beautiful!) and amazing playing!

Is it just my head being tired, or is your guitar's intonation ever so slightly off when you get into the 7th+ frets?

Hard to comment with only guitar alone, but I can't wait to hear it with full instrumentation and the solo!
#23
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Great riffs, good tone (That guitar is beautiful!) and amazing playing!

Is it just my head being tired, or is your guitar's intonation ever so slightly off when you get into the 7th+ frets?

Hard to comment with only guitar alone, but I can't wait to hear it with full instrumentation and the solo!

Haha, thanks for the praise, but no....I just checked the intonation. Pretty spot on I might have been slightly sharp or flat though. Good ear to catch that
#24
Pretty interesting riffs. Even though its just a youtube video the tone sounds like it would be great if recorded properly. Would love to hear this with drums and bass!
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#25
Quote by Vandals572
Pretty interesting riffs. Even though its just a youtube video the tone sounds like it would be great if recorded properly. Would love to hear this with drums and bass!

Thanks man, i appreciate the praise. My tone has taken a long time to achive and think i've finally got what i want from it. It IS degraded a little bit from the video transfer, but i'm proud to see it keeps getting compliments. Cheers
#26
Not bad, riffage reminds me of old school Death. I'm totally jealous of your gear You definitely need to be hooked up with a small rec rig, it will cost ya a little, but an interface is at least a 100$ Look around here in the forums for some recording tips
Last edited by v2a2n2g2 at Aug 2, 2010,
#27
Funny you say it sounds like some old Death. Never had them as an influence for style or writing. It's hard to pin point myself. I definately have some Lamb of God influences, but only a little. There's something else in there that I still haven't figured out.

Guess it's just a mix of a bunch of stuff, and not having any of them dominate the influence.

I really need a drummer to work with, lol. A good one too. Both brief stints in prior bands didn't have a very talented metal style drummer. And niether could do a double-kick to save their lives.
#28
I like the guitarists gameface you've got going on haha
And the way you have the wood grains and such shining through on the guitar, definitely a sweet axe. I have all kinds of questions about the axe itself which I'll check at the door...

But, I do feel some throwbacks to old school metal like maybe a taste of Venom and definitely feeling some Bathory, there are some elements of like, a middle aged Amon Amarth (like, 'Golden Hall' kind of vibe), definitely a good jam.

Some supporting instruments would definitely add to the mix, go a ways to making it into a full composition. I look forward to such a time :P
#30
Ty to the last 2 people to comment. I've decided to go ahead and record the solo now that I have some spare time again. Also, in the middle of writing a new song right now. Drop B instead of C# standard tuning. It's already got some good potential, more excited with this one already then I get with most songs when I start out. Promises to be similar in style, but quite different as a whole. Cheers

Btw, will include link to solo under the link for the pre-existing song in here already
Last edited by bdof at Aug 7, 2010,
#31
UPDATE

Just posted link to the solo that I left out of original video. In first post. Enjoy!!!
#32
bdof,
Go USAF! Back in the mid-80's I helped design a crane-mounted drill rig that went to the Nevada Test Site. It could drill 20 foot diameter holes (and the soil there is almost like solid rock). It used to take a security clearance to get in that Site, and now I understand it's open to the public! Enough about me. Most of your playing is good on the top video, nice occasional squeal. Not easy to get good audio quality on a youtube video, you need to get into multi-track recording my friend! Just having a drum track would make it sound better & force you to keep in time. If computer multi-track recording seems daunting (it can be tricky unless you have help), I suggest getting a multi-track hard disk recorder (I started using one in 1996 & still use one for parts of my recording, even though I use Cubase LE4 also). I can tell this song could sound much better with more pieces of the puzzle. You're off to a good start man!
#33
Thx for the feedback man. I appreciate the multi-track info that you and everyone else is giving me. Nice to hear from a former fellow USAF guy (if that's what you meant).
#35
I appreciate the praise......despite how short it was. I'm also looking for some critique, so everyoe please try to include that as well. Thanks everybody
#36
It´s a very catchy song. I am liking the riffs. The guitar sound is huge. Too bad you didn´t program some drums. It would be killer. Reminds me of Lamb Of God.
#37
Quote by Talentlessjoe
It´s a very catchy song. I am liking the riffs. The guitar sound is huge. Too bad you didn´t program some drums. It would be killer. Reminds me of Lamb Of God.

Thanks for the praise good sir, nice to hear from a guy as talented as yourself. My tone has taken a long time to "perfect" and I'm glad other tone junkies enjoy it. I keep saying this as an excuse, but I'm really not any good with programing drums yet. I will be one day and look to share it with everyone.
Thanks for the LoG comparison. Hopefully it didn't sound too much like them. I'd like to stay original sounding if I can, as hard as that is nowadays with metal. LoG is an influence, but not who I want to sound like. In the end, I wanna sound like ME, and have others one day say "Let's try to sound like (future band name) for this part in the song".
That'd be swell

Thanks again
#38
Freaking amazing.

Your very talented.

I like that you go from scales, arpegios to playing chords, you do it very smoothly.

You have great skill making your transitions as well.

5/10 structure

0/10 lyrics (you don't have any lol)

7/10 Chord/scale transition
#39
Thanks a lot, good critique. Believe it or not thought that video is full of errors, haha. I just can't play a full song in front of the camera without goofing at least a few times
#40
Haha yea same here, I screw up my own songs all the time when I am being recorded on camera.
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