#1
i know that plywood is the least desired wood for a guitar (with the exception of plastic and pdf or whatever it is) but how bad is it exactly?
obviously its useable but it is as bad as everybody says it is?
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#2
It probably is as bad as people make it out to be.

It's not a coincidence that no guitar bands use plywood.

Now if you want a wood-expert answer, I can't really give it to you.
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#3
EDIT: ^ The guy above me; Danelectro.

You can make a perfectly usable, good guitar out of it. It may not be as good as mahogany or whatever, but I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference when your playing live.
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#4
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EDIT: ^ The guy above me; Danelectro.

You can make a perfectly usable, good guitar out of it. It may not be as good as mahogany or whatever, but I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference when your playing live.


Yeah... no.

Plywood sucks. It's hard to work with, looks bad and sounds extremely bad too. Anyone could tell the difference between plywood and mahogany if they compared the two.
#5
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#6
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Yeah... no.

Plywood sucks. It's hard to work with, looks bad and sounds extremely bad too. Anyone could tell the difference between plywood and mahogany if they compared the two.

Eh I'm way too drunk to care.

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I really can't tell though in a band situation in a group of people who never play guitar if they can tell or even bother to tell the difference between the thing. Especially if guitar isn't the main instrument.

Man I love piano.
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#7
what if i used it in conjunction with another wood? cause my idea was to make a sort of relic'd looking thing.
so id have a pauwlonia strat body (very light and apparently good for pinch harmonics) and i have some plywood lying around that actually has a really nice grain on top, and id like to use it as a top/veneer. now by relic'd i mean id go over it with solid black, and then sand it off in certain spots and burn around the sanded edges. that way the grain could show thru in those spots
its kinda complicated but yeaaahhh...
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#8
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what if i used it in conjunction with another wood? cause my idea was to make a sort of relic'd looking thing.
so id have a pauwlonia strat body (very light and apparently good for pinch harmonics) and i have some plywood lying around that actually has a really nice grain on top, and id like to use it as a top/veneer. now by relic'd i mean id go over it with solid black, and then sand it off in certain spots and burn around the sanded edges. that way the grain could show thru in those spots
its kinda complicated but yeaaahhh...

Plywood relic'd? Don't. It isn't pretty, which is why you see a lot of solid colours over it. And with a veneer, I can't imagine it would be too easy to work with.
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#9
Quote by Schism1985
Yeah... no.

Plywood sucks. It's hard to work with, looks bad and sounds extremely bad too. Anyone could tell the difference between plywood and mahogany if they compared the two.

Schism is right. With the crossed grain and glue, ply is quite difficult to work. Saws and routers don't like crossed grain much. But, it doesn't have to look terrible. veneers FTW!
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#11
You can make a decent guitar out of it, but anyone who makes a guitar out of plywood is most likely skimping on the quality of the hardware and the quality of the work in general to get the price as low as possible, so they usually turn out low quality anyway.
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#12
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You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#13
I made a guitar out of plywood, and it sounds fine. Better than my alder one. Just dont try to carve it. It will be hell if you do.
As for routers, just go slowly and it wont give you any trouble, or at least mine didnt.
#15
this wouldnt be a cheapo build.
i said as a veneer because the top of this plywood doesnt look like plywood, its more like... a whole bunch of laminates. the top doesnt look like plywood at all, like it has a really nice wavy kinda grain, but the side (thinnest part) looks like plywood (whole bunch of layers) so its kinda plywood kinda not :S
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#16
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D'oh! OSBcaster. There's also an MDFCaster there.


pics? I actually like MDF as a guitar body material. Super workable.
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You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#17
Its still all plywood lol, its just somewhat pretty


Is the grain similar to that? Thats the one I made, and I too found the grain on the top layer purty
#19
yeah its kinda like that, but the wavy parts are a bit darker
i have a lot of it :S we made skim boards outta it a long time ago and we never use them so i could probably get away with using one of them.
heyy!!! IDEA
i could buy a body (GFS or something) and use this laminate wood stuff and make a double neck!!!
we've got a couple of beginner guitars lying around my house... hey this could work!
what do you guys think? this would be a project for like... after christmas tho
so one half would be a mahogany Epi LP JR. body, and the other this laminate stuff, with one mahogany neck and one Mighty Mite maple neck.
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#21
yeah i saw that thread a long time ago
so i had another idea that could potentially make it better:
instead of basically making two 2/3 bodies and gluing them together (one of mahogany one of plywood) i could cut 1/3 of the mahogany off, and in between the rest of the body and the 1/3, glue in a piece of plywood.
so the body would go (from left to right) 1/3 mahogany:plywood:2/3 mahogany
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#22
I think that if you don't carve it, and use it as a veneer it will look fine especially if you put a binding around the otside of the body covering up the edge of the plywood. using it as a thin veneer probably won't effect the tone of the wood as much as making the whole guitar out of plywood.
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#24
^Just realize it looks absolutely hideous.
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You CAN play anything with anything....but some guitars sound right for some things, and not for others. Single coils sound retarded for metal, though those who are apeshit about harpsichord probably beg to differ.
#25
its not laminate like that, its basically just plywood with a nice grain
nothing really cool like the Zoot Suit.
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#26
Plywood, generally, is a terrible idea - BUT, I happen to own a 70's Harmony electric which has a plywood body, and it sounds amazing. The pickups are good enough (though it's a budget model, it has quirky sounding P90 copies), and the hardware so solid, that they make the body wood irrelevant.
#27
Things like the mass of the guitar and whether there are springs or a tremolo cavity have much more influence on the sound than the actual wood used. If the hardware is good the wood doesn't make much of a difference as far as I'm concerned. Like people could tell anyway...

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#28
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Pfftt! You should see the MDFCaster over at TDPRI:


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#30
Quote by deluthe
A friend has a very nice older Cort Strat with a plywood body and it sounds quite good. It has a real nice neck. Some Danelectro bodies are still made from Masonite. Again the low cost body is attached to a great neck. You've got to check this out if you haven't seen it yet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SohWrnzYqAk&feature=player_embedded#
Sweet!

I scored a MIK Squier II for the neck but it sounded beastly with its "cheap" stock PUs and "cheap" plywood body on my high-gain amps. It's a stealth weapon.

#32
Quote by Dr.Tong
i know that plywood is the least desired wood for a guitar (with the exception of plastic and pdf or whatever it is) but how bad is it exactly?
obviously its useable but it is as bad as everybody says it is?

i know a guy who tinkers with guitars and hes said that some of the most resonant guitars he's ever played were made of plywood.

honestly, i dont think the wood affects the tone as much on electrics as people seem to think.
#33
Quote by deluthe
A friend has a very nice older Cort Strat with a plywood body and it sounds quite good. It has a real nice neck. Some Danelectro bodies are still made from Masonite. Again the low cost body is attached to a great neck. You've got to check this out if you haven't seen it yet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SohWrnzYqAk&feature=player_embedded#

Awesome. Plywood through Line 6 spider 3? All the snobs on UG are crying right now