Poll: Socialist or Capitalist?
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View poll results: Socialist or Capitalist?
Socialist
180 56%
Capitalist
144 44%
Voters: 324.
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#1
I've seen a trend lately in threads of a very socialist attitude among UG. Call me old fashioned but if I had it my way, the government wouldn't supply anything but roads and a military and street lights and parks and that nature. Not things like healthcare and company bail outs and the like.
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**socialism definition**
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An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity.
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Do you agree with that? ^

P.S. I understand there are gray areas but lets make this as cut and dry as possible. two options.
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#3
I can honestly say that the concept of using a pure version of both is stupid, and this poll shouldn't be so black-and-white.
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#4
Most people around here should already know how I feel.
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#5
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I can honestly say that the concept of using a pure version of both is stupid, and this poll shouldn't be so black-and-white.

I was thinking the same thing.
#6
...Belgium does both. and well.
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#7
I would never consider Socialism. Just look at how happy the people of Greece are
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#8
If I HAD to label myself to a sheer two sided vote, I say Socialist.

But, that being said, I think a blend is the best, and only, option. Granted, a Socialist-leaning method, but a 51-49% lean. That's just me.
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#9
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I would never consider Socialism. Just look at how happy the people of Greece are

Because Greece is a socialist country.
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#10
Socialism only works as long as the government is able to tax the people. Once the money runs out, socialism goes poof.

Work for what you have. Have what you work for. No free handouts. No hands in my pockets. If you prosper and do better than me, then chances are you've worked for it and earned it.
#11
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I can honestly say that I'm completely apathetic.

and also a hypocrite.

Probably this. I mean, socialism would be nice and all, but it's never gonna happen.
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#12
As a working man I can say capitalist is my preferred method.
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#13
I know it CAN'T be black and white. but we don't want a poll with six hundred options. gotta pick a side.
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I can honestly say that the concept of using a pure version of both is stupid, and this poll shouldn't be so black-and-white.


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#16
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Because Greece is a socialist country.

I don't think you understand what I meant
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#17
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Socialism only works as long as the government is able to tax the people. Once the money runs out, socialism goes poof.

Work for what you have. Have what you work for. No free handouts. No hands in my pockets. If you prosper and do better than me, then chances are you've worked for it and earned it.

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#18
More socialist than not, but I'm still pretty moderate.
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#19
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I don't think you understand what I meant

More capitalist tricks.
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#21
I prefer the economic system of Capitalism, but I very much back a lot (certainly not all) of the ideas of Socialism politically. Ok, many hospitals in America might be more advanced than those is the UK, but if a citizen walks into a hospital here, they're not going to be turned away based on how much money they have.


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#22
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More capitalist tricks.

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#23
I just think with free enterprise there would be way too many monopolies and a few guys getting rich and many people suffering, so i think it cant be pure socialism, but i think the government should have restrictions on things and help out the people. Its hard cause people are afraid of corruption and greed in big government situations but idealistically, governments should be there to help the people, and if that would ever happen, i think a system closer to socialism would be better, but thats just me =P
#24
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**socialism definition**
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An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity.
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Do you agree with that? ^

No, because my comprehension of political philosophy is above the average 13 year old. To speak of socialism strictly in terms of Government is frustrating.
#25
Well between the two, I have no idea. My views rests somewhere in bewteen the two. How far to either side, I don't know, but it surely isn't purely one or the other.

btw i voted capitalism. I flipped a coin.
#26
Capitalism.
My family is a living example that you can come with nothing and get a lot out of it.
Hard work goes miles.
#27
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I would never consider Socialism. Just look at how happy the people of Greece are

Firstly, Greece isn't a socialist country.

Secondly, socialist leaning countries consistently rate as the most content countries in the world.
#30
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Socialism is the one where they kill all the Jews, right?

That's more nationalism based, which is more conservative.

Hitler was a fascist nationalist with strong right wing views, and hated Stalin and all of his socialist Communist views, so.....
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#31
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Hard work goes miles.


Go live in Peckham and work 3 jobs a day just to pay the bills, then say that. I see that there are a few people in this thread that want to believe that the lines in the sand are drawn.
#32
Quote by necrosis1193
I can honestly say that the concept of using a pure version of both is stupid, and this poll shouldn't be so black-and-white.


Yeah i agree completely. Some things work a hundred times better under the government, some don't.

You can't have a clear cut either side because pure socialism has proven to not be very effective whilst pure capitilism (assuming from the first post, only the VERY basics are provided) would damage society hugely. Most importantly education needs to have a government influence because most people can't afford a private education. A welfare system is needed often to prevent poverty, etc.
#33
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Like, semi-socialist... right? eh?

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#34
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Go live in Peckham and work 3 jobs a day just to pay the bills, then say that. I see that there are a few people in this thread that want to believe that the lines in the sand are drawn.


Okay sorry, it cAn go miles. Luck is a big factor. I understand that there are many people that work hard and still can't escape their troubles. I'm just saying, it worked in my case.
#35
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I can honestly say that the concept of using a pure version of both is stupid, and this poll shouldn't be so black-and-white.

Yeah. Agreed.
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#36
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Miminal state capitalists are not overweight ex-alcoholics on Fox News usually. There's plenty of them who are well educated and grounded. Don't characterise what you hate into something that's easily mocked; you'll find yourself surprised when they really bite back otherwise.
#37
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Socialism is the one where they kill all the Jews, right?


Actually, that was fascism, mixed with prejudice, scapegoating and extremism, the first of which(Fascism, not the mass murdering and such) is the extreme of political conservatism while socialism is the extreme of political liberalism, if my understanding of the terms is correct. This is part of why I hate it when someone uses both to describe one person. It's like saying black is white.
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#38
Finer points of Government aside, I do believe that there should be an income/wealth cap, and that once you reach a certain amount of money a year, anything over that should be given to people who are legitimately less fortunate or spread through areas of need. Someone making six billion dollars a year while another person can't eat is a ludicrous idea to me.

But that's my opinion.
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#39
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Miminal state capitalists are not overweight ex-alcoholics on Fox News usually. There's plenty of them who are well educated and grounded. Don't characterise what you hate into something that's easily mocked; you'll find yourself surprised when they really bite back otherwise.

I just see "Libertarian Conservative" and immediately think Glenn Beck. Believe me, I don't generalise so harshly about that, or anything, I just had to poke some fun. I always know that there are multiple sides to every story and viewpoint.

No real harm intended.
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#40
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Okay sorry, it cAn go miles. Luck is a big factor. I understand that there are many people that work hard and still can't escape their troubles. I'm just saying, it worked in my case.


That's a more balanced and accurate comment, although still perhaps an understatement. Thanks for correcting.

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Actually, that was fascism, mixed with prejudice, scapegoating and extremism


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