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#1
I used the searchbar; no results.

I know that a lot of people speak a different language,
but how many UG'ers speak English as a second language?
And how hard is it for you to talk in English on message boards and other things?

I have a little bit of trouble speaking on instant messages, or very quickly sometimes, but when I am typing something on a forum, or other website, I often use a translator or have a friend help me have it sound more natural, and spend extra time trying to make it sound better. I started learning about 4 years ago, moved to the U.S. about 2 years ago, but I did not take it seriously, so it was hard for me to make friends.


Also, how long have you been speaking English?


I will put up a poll, if I can figure how to.
Edit; I think I messed it up, so no poll.
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#2
its my first but i find myself speaking/thinking in other tounges instead of english.
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#3
About 6 years, maybe 7.
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#4
Yes and no. I am one of around 500 people alive who can speak Pitcairn, [woo!] but I grew up speaking a mix of it and English, and they are kind of similar in a way so neither is really a 'second language.'

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#6
Its my second language and I get along better at it then Hebrew,Its not that hard to talk since Im pretty fluent.
About 9 years.
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#7
Yeah, sometimes I think in Italian, even though it is not my first, or second language, and I hardly know any of it.
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#9
What's your first language TS?
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#11
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What? Also, your English grammar is shit.

Cut the guy some slack. English is a ****ed up language thats really difficult to learn
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#12
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What?


how did you not understand that? its not like i was speaking Sweedish. Fy på dig!
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#16
english is my first. ive noticed that people who learn it as a 2nd language have better grammar than me
#17
A dinnae ken any ae aw that fancy english pish. Pure hefty shite.
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#18
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Rules like "The first letter in the sentence is alway capitalized" and "End with either a period, question mark, or exclamation point" aren't hard at all.

what are you talking about
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Rules like "The first letter in the sentence is alway capitalized" and "End with either a period, question mark, or exclamation point" aren't hard at all.

Why is it necessary to obnoxiously point out someone's grammar mistakes when you understood what they were saying?

I understand that you're trying to improve the quality of the written english here, but if the post is comprehensible, is it really worth writing just to say how much someone's grammar sucks when it's good enough to be understood?
#21
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Rules like "The first letter in the sentence is alway capitalized" and "End with either a period, question mark, or exclamation point" aren't hard at all.



that just being lazy. i never capitalize anything on the internet but i do on paper
#22
English is my second language. But I've been speaking it since kindergarten so it's never a problem for me. Except when I mispronounce words like content.

Or salmon.

I hate saying salmon. Can never get it right.
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#23
English is my second language and I'd say I speak it to a decent level, I've done quite a lot to become good at it as well. I'm learning 4 other languages as well though so I'd say languages are somewhat a thing I'm generally better than, say, maths, or life at all, for that matter. Yeah err... what was the question again?
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#24
I HAVE noticed that a lot of people that speak English have very bad grammar. I don't understand it, if you grow up speaking a language, why would you be so bad at speaking it?
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#25
Not my first language. I grew up speaking German and Polish and the former helps a little with the vocabulary. My spelling is relatively good I think and I've been told my grammar's okay as well, but I often look at the screen and go "did I just post complete gibberish?"
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Why is it necessary to obnoxiously point out someone's grammar mistakes when you understood what they were saying?

I understand that you're trying to improve the quality of the written english here, but if the post is comprehensible, is it really worth writing just to say how much someone's grammar sucks when it's good enough to be understood?

In my opinion, certain standards should be upheld. I hear people saying acronyms like "lol, cbf, omg, idk" and whatnot. This is a result of the rules of the language being relaxed. Who knows what will happen if the rules slip further.
#27
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Rules like "The first letter in the sentence is alway capitalized" and "End with either a period, question mark, or exclamation point" aren't hard at all.



it's the internet mate, not an essay, or a report. People dont take out that very little amount of time to do things like that. i can understand if missing an object would change a meaning but it really does not matter in a place as the internet. Same thing as texting. (its and it's is not what i mean).
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#28
I learnt my first English word 12 year ago; when I was 6 years old, and in first grade. I've improved a lot during recent years though. I am actually going to London less than a week from now, so I'll see if they laugh at me or not.

There's no trouble posting on a message board or chat. In fact I find it awkward to chat online in Norwegian, my mother tongue, and first language.

Regarding German, however...

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it's the internet mate, not an essay, or a report. People dont take out that very little amount of time to do things like that. i can understand if missing an object would change a meaning but it really does not matter in a place as the internet. Same thing as texting. (its and it's is not what i mean).


Am I the only one using proper punctuation — even semicolons and dashes — when writing text messages?
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#29
It's my... uhm. fourth language. I'd say it's the language I'm most fluent at, though.
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#30
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English is a ****ed up language thats really difficult to learn

Not nearly as difficult as Spanish, Portuguese, German or Dutch.

I've been speaking English for about eleven or twelve years now. I study applied linguistics specialising in English and German so I find myself thinking in English a lot.
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#31
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Not nearly as difficult as Spanish, Portuguese, German or Dutch.

I've been speaking English for about eleven or twelve years now. I study applied linguistics specialising in English and German so I find myself thinking in English a lot.


Do you?

Wow, I've just graduated from a degree in Linguistics and English Language. What difference is there in applied linguistics?

English is my first language so I have nothing to contribute here, but I do teach English...
#32
I found my posts from a different forum, and I registered there when I was 13 (I'm 20 now). I was horrified, I didn't realize my English was so bad. I'm not saying its great now, I don't know anything about grammar. When I'm talking via Xfire or posting on forums, I sometimes need to check out words in the dictionary, or work around weird sentences. My spoken language improved when I started talking via Team Speak while playing games, got more fluent. Still a long road, but I'm too lazy. I hate learning languages, I got my basic English skills by watching Cartoon Network, and polished it later with the internet and video games.

They tried to teach me German at school from age 10 to 18, but it never worked out. I can understand some simple sentences, but that's all. I just hate studying

Polish is my first language, doesn't help with talking, because its a completely different language. But its easier for a Pole to learn English than the other way.
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#33
First language for me.

I want to learn Finnish though. Such an awesome language.

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#34
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English is my first language so I have nothing to contribute here, but I do teach English...


Do you teach English to English speaking students or those having English as second, third, or so on?
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#35
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Do you teach English to English speaking students or those having English as second, third, or so on?


English as a foreign language.


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First language for me.

I want to learn Finnish though. Such an awesome language.


Contact the Finnish church guild, they are great for language lessons.
#36
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English as a foreign language.


Do you know how to speak the language of those you are teaching then? (Because I looked upon the fact that my English teachers knew Norwegian as well as a huge adventage...)
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Do you know how to speak the language of those you are teaching then? (Because I looked upon the fact that my English teachers knew Norwegian as well as a huge adventage...)


When I'm teaching in England there are students from all over the world, so no. Immersion (just speaking English) has been proven to be the best environment for language learning.

I also speak French, German and Finnish though so if I teach overseas in those countries I could speak in their native tongue if absolutely necessary.

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It is actually weird, that when I speak in English, I do it with a little Brittish/French accent, I am told. My English teacher in Canada was Brittish, and the woman that lives next door to me that helps me learn English better is also Brittish.


As a British person hoping to get teaching work in Canada I'm glad to hear that
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Contact the Finnish church guild, they are great for language lessons.


Bitchin, I'll look into that.

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#39
I spoke spanish for the first eight years of my life. I've been speaking english fluently for the last ten. I moved to the US and learned english rather quickly (a few months) because my only friend at the time was some kid that only spoke english lol
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#40
Swedish is my native language and I think I speak English better than most English native speakers.

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