#1
Okay,

So i'm going to buy a new guitar and as i'm the frontman of a thrash metal band i wanna have a shape with some bite to it, so not a superstrat/LP etc.

I basically want to know whether you think that an EX or a V would better suit my purpose, more specifically an ESP LTD EX-360 or a Schecter Hellraiser V.
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So very true...
#4
esp is much better than the schecter

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#5
Well that was what i was gonna do, saw it in my local guitar store yesterday in white and while it may be openly ripping off james hetfield i fell in love with it. I just knew of the schecter and wanted to get a second opinion so to speak.
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Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


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So very true...
#6
i like the jackson style kellys, similar to the ESP (so it has my pick).. i dislike V shapes (unless one side of the V is shorter, like some randy rhoads guitars)
another shape i love is the ibanez ice man.
#7
Yeah, i love Kellys but i have a big thing about tremolos, i have 2 floating bridge guitars and i just need a fixed bridge xD the iceman's pretty cool but you can't escape the appeal of an EX :P
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Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


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So very true...
#8
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i like the jackson style kellys, similar to the ESP

Not really...
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...one side of the V is shorter, like some randy rhoads guitars

Or all of them.

I do agree that asymmetrical V shapes are the best. And the Kelly rules. However, I can't stand the ESP Ex shape at all. The ass-curve and inside of the horn are the wrong way around.
#9
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Or all of them.


King V?
VMNT?
ESP V series?
Flying V?
Dean V?

All symetrical. Okay, so the hardware etc isn't symetrical but both horns are the same length.
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Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


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So very true...
#10
The schecter V I believe is more expensive, but I do have a soft spot for the LTD explorers
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#11
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The schecter V I believe is more expensive, but I do have a soft spot for the LTD explorers

Same, the V is nice but the explorers just seem asthetically nicer *cough* nosedive
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Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


Quote by smcstoronto1234

So very true...
#12
What makes a superstrat not have any "bite" to it? Strat shapes almost always have superior comfort and balance compared to the more exotic shapes. A flying V or a Explorer shaped guitar wont make you more badass or anything of the sort either.

With that said, ill vote for the schecter V.
Last edited by dethfield at Jul 29, 2010,
#13
I vote for ESP. Try the F shape. It's insane.
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#14
.....Go with a Razorback xP


Personally between the 2 choices I'd go with the ESP, The Schecter V's don't feel right to me
#15
there's a kelly with a fixed bridge. i personally haven't played any ESP guitars, guess i need to. And wtf there is a F shape ??
if you dont mind could you tell me your dislikes with the floating bridges. i am in the opposite boat as you (i have one fixed bridge and am looking for a new guitar and considering a ibanez prestige RG3350MZ)
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#16
Quote by elihu4321
i like the jackson style kellys, similar to the ESP (so it has my pick).. i dislike V shapes (unless one side of the V is shorter, like some randy rhoads guitars)
another shape i love is the ibanez ice man.



Exactly how I feel about this.

The ESP F body is

I think they(the F-style body) make better basses than guitars.
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#17
i agree, nice guitar, but great bass design.... have you all checked out i agree, nice guitar, but great bass design.... have you all checked out if you have the cash... amazing (you can get them cheaper on ebay)
in-case that hyperlink didn't work .... http://www.guitarasylum.com/product_pages/caparison/caparison_select.htm
Last edited by elihu4321 at Jul 30, 2010,
#18
Quote by dethfield
What makes a superstrat not have any "bite" to it? Strat shapes almost always have superior comfort and balance compared to the more exotic shapes. A flying V or a Explorer shaped guitar wont make you more badass or anything of the sort either.

With that said, ill vote for the schecter V.


I just don't like superstrats for singing with, i've tried both and i prefered using a more aggressively shaped guitar when singing, strats lay on me funny when i'm leaning towards the mic.
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Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


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So very true...
#19
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there's a kelly with a fixed bridge.
if you dont mind could you tell me your dislikes with the floating bridges. i am in the opposite boat as you (i have one fixed bridge and am looking for a new guitar and considering a ibanez prestige RG3350MZ)


The fixed bridge kelly is intended as a first-time buyers guitar, doesn't have great specs.

I just don't like having to balance my bridge for every new tuning i want to use, and having to change my strings one at a time, and cut the ball-ends off. Restringing can take twice as long, and changing string gagues requires bridge and truss rod adjustments, can take up to an hour to get it perfect. I just wanna have that better sustain and to be able to tune/restring faster.
Quote by metaldood91
Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


Quote by smcstoronto1234

So very true...
#20
Stay away from LTDs if your going for a guitar get an actual ESP not their crappy counter part. Every single LTD I have tried were just not that good and I have tried everything from the low end to the high end. An ESP low end guitar craps all over any of the higher end LTDs the quality is like night and day of course you'll pay a little more for an ESP but it's worth it. I have played both guitars, get the Schecter it's a far superior guitar much better build quality, better feel and much much better tone.
#22
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The fixed bridge kelly is intended as a first-time buyers guitar, doesn't have great specs.

I just don't like having to balance my bridge for every new tuning i want to use, and having to change my strings one at a time, and cut the ball-ends off. Restringing can take twice as long, and changing string gagues requires bridge and truss rod adjustments, can take up to an hour to get it perfect. I just wanna have that better sustain and to be able to tune/restring faster.


thanks for the heads up about it being a 1st time guitar, it was on my list. (i was just going to change its pick ups) And yeah the drop tuning issue would bug me, i like getting the intonation right but i haven't fooled with a trus rod yet...
does anyone know if they make an item that lets you put a fixed bridge on a guitar that has a Floating bridge ? (if you took it out of course, like interchangeable bridges. Sounds like that would fix the problem)
#23
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't ltd and esp one in the same? and also i have the lowest end model of the f-series and i love it also the string-thru makes it very easy to restring
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#25
Quote by WarriorArtist94
King V?
VMNT?
ESP V series?
Flying V?
Dean V?

All symetrical. Okay, so the hardware etc isn't symetrical but both horns are the same length.

I wasn't talking about Vs in general, but rather adressed elihu4321's preference of when "...one side of the V is shorter, like some randy rhoads guitars". To which I thought "But ALL Randy Rhoads models have one wing that's shorter." See?
#26
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i agree, nice guitar, but great bass design.... have you all checked out i agree, nice guitar, but great bass design.... have you all checked out if you have the cash... amazing (you can get them cheaper on ebay)
in-case that hyperlink didn't work .... http://www.guitarasylum.com/product_pages/caparison/caparison_select.htm



I haven't played a Caparison, but I can only assume that they're awesome since Michael Romeo and Christopher Amott use them exclusively.

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#28
Quote by WarriorArtist94
King V?
VMNT?
ESP V series?
Flying V?
Dean V?

All symetrical. Okay, so the hardware etc isn't symetrical but both horns are the same length.

Good point, but...
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like some randy rhoads guitars)



I love the RRV shape, which is why I play them.
I love the Les Paul sound.
I love my ESP's playability, but also that of a nice vintage strat or the Ibanez JS1000.

So I'm featuring all of these elements in the guitar I'm building

I too dig Explorers though.
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#29
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thanks for the heads up about it being a 1st time guitar, it was on my list. (i was just going to change its pick ups) And yeah the drop tuning issue would bug me, i like getting the intonation right but i haven't fooled with a trus rod yet...
does anyone know if they make an item that lets you put a fixed bridge on a guitar that has a Floating bridge ? (if you took it out of course, like interchangeable bridges. Sounds like that would fix the problem)


I know exactly what you're looking for- the tremol-no. It's awesome, i can't explain it in a post but just go to the official website and see what you think.
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Hi. Can someone tell me which guitars are real 24 fret guitars and which are just 22 fret guitars with 2 extra frets added on?


http://www.youtube.com/user/Joeseffel


Quote by smcstoronto1234

So very true...
#30
Check out the anihilator from october guitars its only 750 bucks (last time I checked) and it looks ****ing awesome!
#31
Quote by dethfield
What makes a superstrat not have any "bite" to it? Strat shapes almost always have superior comfort and balance compared to the more exotic shapes. A flying V or a Explorer shaped guitar wont make you more badass or anything of the sort either.

With that said, ill vote for the schecter V.


Yeah its all bout the playing skills so even if you have a strat its not going to make you badass, whatever that means.
#32
Buy an Explorer-shape and grow a beard that looks like glued on steel wool
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#33
Soloist carved all the way. Or telecaster.


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I keep my Schecter in dropped D all the time, and i didn't buy an attachment of any kind.

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