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#1
Obvious enough from the title. In your opinion what makes an individual a good person? Empathy, Charity, rationality, egoism, intelligence, interest in others, self interest? Interested to see what people think of this.

And conversely if you're feeling extra discursive what makes a bad person?

This could probably fit in the philosophy half of the R&P thread but since most people won't be approaching this from a philosophical basis I think it might fit the rest of the put a bit better.
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To be a good person, it takes the understanding that in your natural state you're a wanker.

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Empathy I suppose it what does it for me.
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most people won't be approaching this from a philosophical basis.

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#7
I don't know.

I would use the word "good" to describe someone who can show kindness and empathy, and who doesn't physically or emotionally hurt others without reason or justification.

there really isn't a defined set of qualities that could be used to label someone "good" or "bad". it's too subjective, but I guess that's the point of asking opinions.
#9
I wanted to type "if they love Jesus!", but then I thought trolling this thread probably made me a bad person.


Well, a good person is a moral person, right-o? If so, a good person is one that acts according to a moral code. Now, the problem is that people have different moral codes, so a person I might consider the most moral might be immoral according to someone else.

Yeah, ultimately I'd have to say the morally best person is one that follows my personal moral code. It's a narcissistic conclusion, but it's the only one I reach.


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Is there an echo in here? I made it clear I was asking for your subjective definition.
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#11
Wasnt there a thread like this?
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#12
Honesty is at the top of my list. I don't mind someone being a selfish conceited prick if they're honest about. But if they stab you in the back, that's not good.
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#13
a matter of opinion
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#15
If they do more good acts, than bad acts. People who look to act positively. I'm trying the karmic rebalance right now, it's ****ing killing me.
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#17
To me inherently 'good' people have the ability to empathise with everyone regardless of race sex or beliefs. *shrugs*
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According to Plato and Aristotle a good person is someone who possesses the four cardinal virtues - courage, justice, temperance and intelligence (practical wisdom). They also said it it was not possible to possess just one of these virtues as they are all interconnected.
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#20
For me, a good person is someone who tries behave in a way that they consider to be good. Even if I classify their actions as wrong.

Because most people meet this requirement, I see just about everyone as good.
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#23
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I wanted to type "if they love Jesus!", but then I thought trolling this thread probably made me a bad person.


Well, a good person is a moral person, right-o? If so, a good person is one that acts according to a moral code. Now, the problem is that people have different moral codes, so a person I might consider the most moral might be immoral according to someone else.

Yeah, ultimately I'd have to say the morally best person is one that follows my personal moral code. It's a narcissistic conclusion, but it's the only one I reach.


EDIT: I realise I'll get curb-stomped for this post.


spot on
#24
There is no such thing as a good person or a bad person. Everything is completely subjective.
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#25
i think a lot of people consider selflessness and empathy "good" qualities. at least i think they are.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with what is being asked, you can have a definition of what is good and bad in a person without believing in god,

But on topic, to me a good person is someone who has their own set of moral values and abides by them no matter what, even though their moral values may differ from everybody else, at least they have set forth boundaries for themselves and will abide by them.
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But on topic, to me a good person is someone who has their own set of moral values and abides by them no matter what, even though their moral values may differ from everybody else, at least they have set forth boundaries for themselves and will abide by them.

terrorists have their set of moral values that they believe are right and they abide by them no matter what. i feel like most people wouldn't say terrorists are good people.
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#28
You're a good person if you can admit the fact that you were born an asshole.
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terrorists have their set of moral values that they believe are right and they abide by them no matter what. i feel like most people wouldn't say terrorists are good people.


Fair enough, and i agree with you, but to a terrorist somebody who has the same set of views as you or i may not be a good person either, its all subjective really that was the point im trying to make
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#33
In a purely evolutionary definition of good and bad, we evolved as a 'social' species.
As a social species, our moral role becomes one of 'looking out' for one another, because that is the evolutionary advantage that being a member of a social species brings. So we can consider that in evolutionary terms, a 'good' person is one who simply 'looks out' for his/her fellow person and acts as one of the team for the interests of the whole.

Obviously that means that a bad person is someone who goes against that basic social function, someone who is selfish and only looks out for themselves, someone who would steal the food from another, someone who would use any excuse, such as politics or religion, to place differences between people and so threaten that basic social function.
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In a purely evolutionary definition of good and bad, we evolved as a 'social' species.
As a social species, our moral role becomes one of 'looking out' for one another, because that is the evolutionary advantage that being a member of a social species brings. So we can consider that in evolutionary terms, a 'good' person is one who simply 'looks out' for his/her fellow person and acts as one of the team for the interests of the whole.

Obviously that means that a bad person is someone who goes against that basic social function, someone who is selfish and only looks out for themselves, someone who would steal the food from another, someone who would use any excuse, such as politics or religion, to place differences between people and so threaten that basic social function.


But from an evolutionary standpoint an organism that purely looks out for others at the expense of itself is going to get seriously shafted by natural selection. In animals it's often observed that these 'altruistic' functions are simply utilised to improve their own chance of reproduction and the survival of these children. This obviously gets very complicated with human beings given that the factors that allow optimal reproduction aren't nearly as clear as they are in the rest of the animal kingdom.

So I'd argue that from a purely evolutionary viewpoint a 'good' person is one who maximises his chance of passing on his genes. Dependant on situation this may or may not require them to harm members of the same species around them.
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#35
A good person looks out for otther people and covers their asss even if they dont like them. Also i was brought up on the phrase "There is no such thing as a bad person only a person who does bad things."
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#36
A good person is someone who has the ability to fake feelings very well.
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#37
No one can be a good person to everyone.

I really don't have a clue what makes a good person to anyone though, I'm a tool.
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#38
No such thing.
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But from an evolutionary standpoint an organism that purely looks out for others at the expense of itself is going to get seriously shafted by natural selection.


Which is why the majority of a social species looks out for one another, it's a reciprocal action, you look out for me and I look out for you, that way we both gain.
And this is pretty much the only way it can work from an evolutionary standpoint, if only one member of the species acts in this way, then yes, natural selection will, as you say, 'shaft' it and any advantage that the species may have gained from it will be lost. But if they all act in a social manner, then they all gain, making a true evolutionary advantage.
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As for my take on it, being good or bad, I don't care - it's about whether I like the person or not.
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