#1
Hi!

which amp for Tele / Strat and Boss ME25 for blues, rock'n'roll, jazz (I wish)?

My budget would cover something like:
Fender 600 Champion
Fender GDec Junior
Fender Frontman 25R

I don't care about the power / digital effects (the pedal will take care of that, right?).

Thanks.
#2
The only thing the pedal will take care of is the digital effects. It will not increase the power of your amp. I'd recommend something like the Fender Frontman. It offers a nice clean sound for jazz and you can put your pedal right through it to give it that crunch for the rock'n'roll sound.
#3
All of these are kinda meh. Try to find a used Fender Vibro Champ XD or Super Champ XD. Or an Epiphone Valve Junior with a cheap OD pedal (Digitech Bad Monkey / Boss SD-1).
#4
i would suggest the champion 600

the forntman is not that great and a change of speakers could make the champ quite good
#5
combine the budget for effects and amp and get a used flextone. if you want something small i'd say a used pro jr or blues jr.
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Last edited by gregs1020 at Aug 2, 2010,
#6
Any small 5 watt tube amp will do. The Valve Junior amps, etc.
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#7
the little 5W tube amps are nice, I played around with a Marshall class 5 for a bit and liked it


but if you insist on getting something cheaper, the Vox AD15VT is ok
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#8
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Bugera-BC15-15W-1x8-Vintage-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=430633
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Bugera-V5-5W-1x8-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=502586

if u want something cheaper
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Pathfinder-15R-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=481948
has pretty decent cleans.

and whatever u do, dont get the Fender frontman. Also dont get the g-dec junior. It's a decent amp by itself but it's a modelling amp so it wont take pedals well.
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#9
Thank you all very much.

So I understand I need:
- no modelling amp
- tube amp
(and I know I want a cheap one)

Why isn't the Fender Champion 600 good then?
This is the only cheap amp they have in the store I would like to buy from.
I could get the Vox AC4TVH for about 30 Euro more from a different shop.
For the Bugera I would have to order online and pay transport to my country, etc.
Is the Bugera V5 better than the Fender Champion 600 (it's the same price for me and I would prefer to buy locally in case something breaks...)

Thanks.
Last edited by atodea at Aug 2, 2010,
#10
The problem with the 600 is it's tiny speaker. Usually, guitar amps use 10" or 12" speakers, small practice combos also come with 8" ones. The 600 has a 6.5" speaker, which just doesn't get you as much low-end as the bigger ones (even when you upgrade it, which is a common thing to do with this amp). I'd rather have the Bugera V5 or Epi Valve Junior, both of which come with 8" speakers.

The AC4TVH is nicer than all of these, but you do realise that it's just a head, right? You'd need to buy a speaker cabinet along with it, or go for the AC4TV instead, which has a speaker installed.
#11
the Fender Champion 600 only has a 6' speaker. It's a bit too small and if u use overdrive or crank the amp loud, it can "fart". With a bigger speaker, it will sound fuller.

here's another one the consider
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Valve-Junior-Combo-Amp?sku=480260&rec=product_sim_A

The Vox ac4tvh is a amp head. u need a cabinet as well.
However if u are talking about the combo, go for it.
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-AC4TV-4W-1x10-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=476326&rec=product_sim_A
Guitars
Fender American Standard Strat 2008
Burny late 1980's Super Grade RLG-70 Les Paul
Sterling by Musicman JP50
Fender Classic Series 60's tele
Yamaha FS720S
Amp
Roland Microcube
Fender Blues Junior III Humholdt
#13
The AC4TV is great for bluesy stuff. If you can afford one, go for it.

Quote by holycow
the Fender Champion 600 only has a 6' speaker. It's a bit too small and if u use overdrive or crank the amp loud, it can "fart". With a bigger speaker, it will sound fuller.

here's another one the consider
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Valve-Junior-Combo-Amp?sku=480260&rec=product_sim_A

The Vox ac4tvh is a amp head. u need a cabinet as well.
However if u are talking about the combo, go for it.
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-AC4TV-4W-1x10-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=476326&rec=product_sim_A

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#14
No, I can't, I'm an idiot, I was referring to the cheaper one AC4TV8.
Please don't waste more time with me as I don't really think it makes a big difference at this point. I'm going back to practice the F chord!
#15
I just got a used blues jr on craigslist for $200. Best investment I've made for a practice/small gig amp. Sounds phenomenal.
#17
I admit, I got very lucky. They usually go for 300-350. But having it now, I wouldn't have minded paying an extra hundred for it.... terrific amp.
#18
I got the AC4TV8 and I love it. Thank you very much.

I didn't want to invest that much (compared to how bad I play) but I'm happy I did it.
I hoped I could get the cheaper G-Dec Jr. but it turned out to have too much noise (for may taste and my noisy cheap single coil guitar) and no real clean channel so I had to choose from the Vox Pathfinder 15R and this little beauty and, well, I got greedy

Going back to practice the F chord on the electric