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#2
fix link please.

Edit: Cool! Hopefully this will help dispel the myth that tube amps will always be better than solid state.
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#4
That's... awesome. Too bad it's not the right voicing for the music I play.
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#9
would have sounded better with a shecter...
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#10
Meh I just bought my expensive tube amp...


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#11
Yeah i think its cool. I'm not sure if it could do the br00tz if you will but i think it could do up to 80s rock type stuff with ease.
#12
Didn't really like the voicing of it. As far as SS goes, I think the VH140C tops it though.
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#14
It did indeed but it wouldnt fulfil my needs so I cant get too excited over it, though its amazing to see how close they are now getting to replicating real tube tone.

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#15
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Didn't really like the voicing of it. As far as SS goes, I think the VH140C tops it though.


Completely different amps... The VH140C goes for it's own tone. This seems to be more about capturing a tube like tone in a more affordable package.

And erybudy noes dat Schecter Hallrazers r teh most versutal geetars evar. It haz coil tapz! U can get a Lez Pal and Strat toan out of it.
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#16
huh i dont needz to coil tap, i haz umbuckerz...


no seriously i do.

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#18
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They're also planning on doing a SS dumble type amp. TGP will flip.


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#21
I wanna hear that with a Strat.
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#22
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hell yeah, honestly that amp sounds nice for crunch, isn't as huge sounding as a 100W superlead but that's perfect for a studio because you won't have to worry about kiddies not knowing how to use tube amps...

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#24
Sounds nice. Too bad it's single channel, though. It cleans up at low gain but what happens when you put it in balls-to-the-wall br00t4lity?

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hell yeah, honestly that amp sounds nice for crunch, isn't as huge sounding as a 100W superlead but that's perfect for a studio because you won't have to worry about kiddies not knowing how to use tube amps...


With some proper mixing, it could probably get there...
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#26
They're going to be under $1000, too. There's a Dumble style amp in the works.
#27
Quote by Raijouta
Sounds nice. Too bad it's single channel, though. It cleans up at low gain but what happens when you put it in balls-to-the-wall br00t4lity?


With some proper mixing, it could probably get there...


yeah that small sound is probably from the camera/cab/room and all. if professionally mixed i'm sure it can keep up with amps like a Superlead or 800
#28
Great.

Sounds fantastic - Of course, i've always been one to want a solid state amp for solid state tones intead of tube-like tones, so my only gripe is that it sounds like a tube amp

But then, at least it proves that solid state amps aren't just the crappy practice amps you get in a starter pack, or overpriced, bigger and louder versions of those crappy practice amps - there are great sounding solid state amps around, but you've gotta pay for a great sound, the bad solid state amps are bad because they are cheap, and cheap because they are bad - i don't expect this amp is gonna cost any less than £1000.

edit: seriously colin? under $1000US? i'm impressed!
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#29
i'm legitimately impressed. amp sounds great
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#30
It certainly sounds impressive. Someone explain to me why this is better than a Trech 21 Trademark 30.
#31
I didn't like the beginning, but when he turned the volume knob down it started to sound amazing!
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#33
that sounded rediculous. Fractal may have met its match in terms of non tube amp design. I always figured there was no way cliff at fractal was the only person in the world to be able to figure out how to do it without tubes. No disrespect to cliff the axe is an amazing product.

edit: i have a feeling these are going to be backordered for a while at < 1k
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Last edited by Matt15f at Aug 8, 2010,
#34
Quote by Matt15f
that sounded rediculous. Fractal may have met its match in terms of non tube amp design. I always figured there was no way cliff at fractal was the only person in the world to be able to figure out how to do it without tubes. No disrespect to cliff the axe is an amazing product.

edit: i have a feeling these are going to be backordered for a while at < 1k


The only thing is, the bad-sounding SS amps only sound bad because they're cheap and poorly designed. If someone with some idea of what they're doing is involved, the results can be just as good as a tube amp. The Hughes and Kettner Zentera, Ampeg VH140c and SS140c, the Jazz Chorus, Vox Super Beatle among others, as well as this amp, are proof of that.
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#35
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The only thing is, the bad-sounding SS amps only sound bad because they're cheap and poorly designed. If someone with some idea of what they're doing is involved, the results can be just as good as a tube amp. The Hughes and Kettner Zentera, Ampeg VH140c and SS140c, the Jazz Chorus, Vox Super Beatle among others, as well as this amp, are proof of that.

Which i am all for, tubes are old tech, its about time guitar amps get some moderinization. I would love for the big amp makers (or small ones) to start putting out non tube amps that sound incredible like the one in this thread.
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#36
Quote by Matt15f
that sounded rediculous. Fractal may have met its match in terms of non tube amp design. I always figured there was no way cliff at fractal was the only person in the world to be able to figure out how to do it without tubes. No disrespect to cliff the axe is an amazing product.


This is an amp with one voice and no effects. It’s not even in the same league and it’s being sold to completely different people.
#37
Quote by jpnyc
This is an amp with one voice and no effects. It’s not even in the same league and it’s being sold to completely different people.

you missed the point. The point is that someone other than fractal is finally putting out a legit non tube amp that appears to have all the tone that a tube amp does.
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#38
Quote by Raijouta
The only thing is, the bad-sounding SS amps only sound bad because they're cheap and poorly designed. If someone with some idea of what they're doing is involved, the results can be just as good as a tube amp. The Hughes and Kettner Zentera, Ampeg VH140c and SS140c, the Jazz Chorus, Vox Super Beatle among others, as well as this amp, are proof of that.



yeah, it's just easier to make a tube amp sound better then a solid stater, that's why technology kinda stopped when people realized they can create kickass tone without really developing techniques with transistors to emulate that tube warmth.

it's nice to see some people building something different and innovative, who knows, this may lead to a whole range of good SS amplifiers...
#39
I don't see why so many people are against solid state.....sure it depends on the volume you play at but still, SS can sound very nice in some situations.

coolstoryangus - I think the amp sounds great, thanks for sharing the link.
Last edited by moody07747 at Aug 8, 2010,
#40
Quote by moody07747
I don't see why so many people are against solid state.....sure it depends on the volume you play at but still, SS can sound very nice in some situations.

its a cultural thing based upon many years of guitar culture that needs to be re visited.
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