#1
I'm looking head for technical death metal and shred. I have 1600$ to spend.
I will get sound like necrophagist/daath/cannibal corpse.
My fovourist are:
-engl powerball v2/2 or fireball60
-peavey 6505
-krank revolution one
which one is better? why?
and what are the main differences?
#2
All high quality amps, all quite suitable to the genre. The Krank is supposed to be very versatile when compared to the Balls and the 6505, as they're kind of one trick ponies, or so I hear. Any of them will probably satisfy you, but only you can make the call, and you can only do it one way: Go try them out. It's probably worth it to test each, even if you have to look for them for a while and make some trips.
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#4
I have a 6505, and you might want to get an EQ pedal with it if you go with it.
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#5
If you go the ENGL route, look at the Powerball II or the Fireball 100. These are newer revisions of the Powerball I and Fireball 60 respectively and will cut better in live/band situations, while just sounding better in general.

6505/6505+ is always a good bet if you don't need AMAZING cleans (the cleans are certainly still passable).

Any Krank amp will be love-hate in terms of tone. They just have a different sort of gain that not all people get along with. The Sweep control makes these amps very versatile but getting your ideal tone may require some tweaking.

Best bet is to try all of these amps in person if at all possible. They will all do what you're looking for, but they all go about it in a slightly different way.
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#6
$100 more will get you an Engl Savage and Z-10 controller on Harmony Centrals classified forum and it will wipe the floor with all 3 of those amps.
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$100 more will get you an Engl Savage and Z-10 controller on Harmony Centrals classified forum and it will wipe the floor with all 3 of those amps.



Didnt know prices but this was the very amp i came to suggest.

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#8
I use a Mesa Mark V for tech-death. I play around with some Necrophagist riffs and solos, sometimes. I used a Powerball for a few month, also, but the Mark V is definitely better. It's not as "heavy" or whatever, but I'm a huge tone chaser. And it might be worth looking into. You'll need to tweak it for 48 straight hours, though.
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$100 more will get you an Engl Savage and Z-10 controller on Harmony Centrals classified forum and it will wipe the floor with all 3 of those amps.

This... I have never heard an amp with more gain than the Savage, ever. I've played Rectos, own a Recto, heard countless 5150's, Mark Series, blah blah blah. But the day I heard an ENGL Savage, I just about pissed my pants when I heard the gain it has on tap. That's not to say it's the best amp out there, but you can sure as hell overdrive it. The only amps I can think of off the top of my head that could really compete with it in the gain category are perhaps the Triple Rec, ENGL SE/Invader, or some of the higher-end Diezels.

EDIT: Though I know you play techdeath, I would consider some other amps, however... Because you never know and your musical tastes could change. You could suddenly love jazz or classic rock and want an old Fender or Plexi sound, for example. ENGLs don't exactly do well in that category. At all.
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#10
If you can go used, get a Bogner Uberschall, I've seen them at GC, on Craigslist and Ebay for about $1600. Uberschalls will maul your face off, they are probably the best amp for anything high-gain. However, if you find one and can't afford, the Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier is probably the next amp that comes to mind. There are probably better amps out there other than a Triple Recto, but I've had good experience with Mesa/Boogie; the lead guitarist for my band owns one and absolutely loves it, and the distortion that you can get from them is mind-blowing. Also, I know Matt Heafy from Trivium uses a Peavey 6505+, so that's another option too. Personally, I've never tried Engl, so I'll definitely need to test one. Same with Diezel, and I've heard they're even more vicious than the Uberschall.
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Uberschalls will maul your face off, they are probably the best amp for anything high-gain.

Meh, the Uber kinda sucks by itself IMO. That amp NEEDS an OD in front of it at all time if you're playing metal.

The Savage should pummel it.
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Meh, the Uber kinda sucks by itself IMO. That amp NEEDS an OD in front of it at all time if you're playing metal.

The Savage should pummel it.

I disagree with the sucks part, MC. I tried out an Uber for over an hour one time at huge volume, & it kicks some serious ass, although for hardcore metal I'd agree that it needs some tightening up, & could not match a Savage for that. The Uber does a lot of rock tones better & fatter than most IMO, but it all depends on how tight you need your sound. Even my SLO is not tight enough to do the super-tight modern metal on its own.
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I disagree with the sucks part, MC. I tried out an Uber for over an hour one time at huge volume, & it kicks some serious ass, although for hardcore metal I'd agree that it needs some tightening up, & could not match a Savage for that. The Uber does a lot of rock tones better & fatter than most IMO, but it all depends on how tight you needyour sound. Even my SLO is not tight enough to do the super-tight modern metal on its own.

Yeah, the Uber is much more of a hard rock amp by itself.

It sounds good, but there's not any tones in that amp I'd use, without an OD for metal
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Yeah, the Uber is much more of a hard rock amp by itself.

It sounds good, but there's not any tones in that amp I'd use, without an OD for metal

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Way too hard core for me!



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