#1
im looking into getting a solid state amp for gigging, what, besides the spider and the mg, would be good options?

im looking at the Cube 80x as well as the Vypyr
#2
Do you have a price range, or perhaps a style of music?

And, for future reference, three of the amps you mentioned are digital, not transistor (solid state).

Edit: Ah, and an equally important question: Why solid state? Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of solid state amps but what makes you think to yourself 'huh, only a solid state will do what I need'?
Last edited by TimmyPage06 at Aug 10, 2010,
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im looking at the Cube 80x

This is a very good idea. The Cubes are top shit.
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And, for future reference, three of the amps you mentioned are digital, not transistor (solid state).



Still solid state and still use transistors. But also digital so you're partially right.

TS out of those two I would go for the Cube, but only because I've had a lot of experience with them and not used a Vypyr.

Really we need a bit more info like budget and style of music you will be playing.
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Do you have a price range, or perhaps a style of music?

And, for future reference, three of the amps you mentioned are digital, not transistor (solid state).

Edit: Ah, and an equally important question: Why solid state? Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of solid state amps but what makes you think to yourself 'huh, only a solid state will do what I need'?


Well my price range is 500 max about 600. I play a lot of 80s metal, but also a variety of different styles. I'm thinking solid state because I use a POD 2.0 and am using my current spider just as a speaker pretty much.

I found an ad for a used Valveking 212 for 350$. Would that be my best option? Or can I get something better new?

I don't know if it will make a difference in my POD tone because of the tubes

Sorry on being a MAJOR gear noob with my stupid questions
Last edited by supersize at Aug 10, 2010,
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Well my price range is 500 max about 600. I play a lot of 80s metal, but also a variety of different styles. I'm thinking solid state because I use a POD 2.0 and am using my current spider just as a speaker pretty much.

I found an ad for a used Valveking 212 for 350$. Would that be my best option? Or can I get something better new?


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#7
Use the VK as a power amp for your POD 2.0. Run into the FX return on the Valveking.
Maybe consider swapping the tubes and speakers at some point.
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And, for future reference, three of the amps you mentioned are digital, not transistor (solid state).
Modern digital devices use transistors (which are indeed solid state). Not to mention the transistors used in those amps in an analog way in the pre- and poweramp (and before anyone says it, yes digital tube devices are possible, but I doubt that's the case here).

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Yes digital valves did exist but not for long. They looked like this:

They didn't last long however so change that from "doubt that's the case here" to "can't possibly be the case here" - but they did help the allies win WW2.
There are digital amps with a valve power section however. So SS digital amp would be the correct terminology for a modelling front end with a SS amp. With your budget a modelling amp with a valve power section would be looking if you want a self contained solution (something like a Spider valve or Viper Tube).
However, you already have what is basically the front end of one anyway so a used tube amp to run your Pod into would be the best of both worlds, the best sounding solution and one you could afford.
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Yes digital valves did exist but not for long. They looked like this:

They didn't last long however so change that from "doubt that's the case here" to "can't possibly be the case here" - but they did help the allies win WW2.
The "doubt that's the case here" was more sarcastic for "no way in hell that's the case here".
There are digital amps with a valve power section however. So SS digital amp would be the correct terminology for a modelling front end with a SS amp. With your budget a modelling amp with a valve power section would be looking if you want a self contained solution (something like a Spider valve or Viper Tube).
However, you already have what is basically the front end of one anyway so a used tube amp to run your Pod into would be the best of both worlds, the best sounding solution and one you could afford.
That's a good idea. I concur. Best would be if you could find a tube amp with an FX loop.
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Quote by Cathbard
Yes digital valves did exist but not for long. They looked like this:

They didn't last long however so change that from "doubt that's the case here" to "can't possibly be the case here" - but they did help the allies win WW2.
There are digital amps with a valve power section however. So SS digital amp would be the correct terminology for a modelling front end with a SS amp. With your budget a modelling amp with a valve power section would be looking if you want a self contained solution (something like a Spider valve or Viper Tube).
However, you already have what is basically the front end of one anyway so a used tube amp to run your Pod into would be the best of both worlds, the best sounding solution and one you could afford.

One little note - i would definitely advise doing this, but you would probably need to make sure to remove the cabinet simulation on the pod when you're running though the FX return of a tube amp, because you'll be running your sound through an actual cabinet so you won't need it.
I like analogue Solid State amps that make no effort to be "tube-like", and I'm proud of it...

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