#1
So, I'm thinking of making a super versatile guitar which has a total of 4 humbucking pickups. Two active (probably EMG's or Seymour Duncan Blackouts) and two passive (something well suited for cleans). I'd also like to make it a semi-hollow body.

Now that's all well and good for switching between heavy distortion on the actives and sparkling cleans on the passives, but what happens if I use all four pickups at the same time? Is it just going to sound really horrible or what? Will there even be enough power being provided? I'm guessing there will be since the actives have their own battery, but I'm not sure.

Also, is there a reason that you don't see semi-hollow body metal guitars other than the fact that you probably can't tell the difference after the distortion? It couldn't hurt the sound at least, correct?

Thanks for any help!
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#2
4 pickups? Humbuckers? Explain this, plox.

You can't use the passive at the same time as the active.
You will need a buffer on the passive to make them run with the active.

Additionally, you will need separate controls for the active pickups, and separate controls for the passive, because actives use 25K pots, and passive humbuckers generally use 500K.

As for semi-hollows, you may experience feedback.
#3
well it wouldn't make a sound with 2 passives and 2 actives running together u cant wire them on the same circut
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#4
@forsaknazrael:
Well I mean 4 separate humbuckers, which would have two pickups in each technically I guess. So if you're counting all of them there are 8.
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#5
maixicng actives and passives would be complicated i know you would need different pots for the actives and the passives i font know about anything else like the grounding and the jack

and the reason most hollow body guitars arent made for high gain is that they tend to have alot of feedback

i suggest instead out have a preamp build into your guitar so you can flip a switch and add some gain to it and go back to clean when done
#6
Ok, thanks for the heads up about the feedback, would have been bad to find that out the hard way...
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#7
Quote by 6StringSlaughtr
@forsaknazrael:
Well I mean 4 separate humbuckers, which would have two pickups in each technically I guess. So if you're counting all of them there are 8.

I understood that there were four humbuckers. I just don't understood why (what tonal advantages?) or how the routing was going to look (ugly? ).
#8
It would be possible, but you would need 3 switches, and 4 knobs to make it work properly. You wouldn't want your passives or actives working at the same time.

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#10
Have you considered using 2 passive pickups and having a switch-able active circuit (like a built in boost pedal)
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#11
Or, two active and two passives and two output jacks?
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#15
Not a good idea. If you want versatility, just buy 2 guitars. Also, you'd have to cut a portion of the neck for the 3rd and 4th humbucker to fit (I think). you could also add coil tap for better cleans
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#16
Quote by OliOsbourne
Not a good idea. If you want versatility, just buy 2 guitars. Also, you'd have to cut a portion of the neck for the 3rd and 4th humbucker to fit (I think). you could also add coil tap for better cleans


"Better cleans"

I think you meant different cleans. Or just different tone in general.
#17
Quote by colgo889
"Better cleans"

I think you meant different cleans. Or just different tone in general.

i meant better if you use active pups like me
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#18
Quote by OliOsbourne
i meant better if you use active pups like me


You can't coil split actives. So you were saying better cleans that the unsplit humbucker, though i see now that you did not mean that.
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#25
listen to MAB play a double neck guitar (he also plays a 4 neck guitar but its only for showing off)
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#26
Simple solution:

Route for full sized humbuckers.

Use Lace Reds and some SC sized passive buckers of your choice, and place them as desired in the routing. Have a switch taking you between the passive and active pickups, with as many knobs as you need to give you the options you want for each pickup set.
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Cool guitar..

do you it one of the middle pickups when you strum?
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#29
I mean... there are examples of four humbuckers being used



so the routing is possible... but it looks terrible!
Definitely go with stacked pups if youre dead set on all humbuckers
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#30
This sounds like a recipe for poor sustain. So many magnets...
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#31
Wouldn't there be output issues with using passive and active pups together? I've got a friend with a guitar equipped with 81's and 85's, and it's hella louder than my Esquire's "super-high output" Neovin passive pickup.
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#33
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Simple solution:

Route for full sized humbuckers.

Use Lace Reds and some SC sized passive buckers of your choice, and place them as desired in the routing. Have a switch taking you between the passive and active pickups, with as many knobs as you need to give you the options you want for each pickup set.
a'la this.


Page for the guy's signatures.
http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/aoi/index.html

Ahem... Excuse me.. but I've got the best idea here >_> Mind you this guy used Lace Golds for the Single Coil sound, you can do the same with the Lace Reds for a humbucker tone. Just keep the routing perpendicular to the strings instead of angled like this one.
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#34
Quote by colgo889
You can't coil split actives. So you were saying better cleans that the unsplit humbucker, though i see now that you did not mean that.



You can coil tap/ coil split actives, I know for sure there is a Hellraiser model with the 81/85 set coil tapped with a push-pull pot.
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#35
Quote by Arch1119
You can coil tap/ coil split actives, I know for sure there is a Hellraiser model with the 81/85 set coil tapped with a push-pull pot.


the hellraiser you're talking about has an 81TW and an 89, not an 81/85 set..

and it's not really coil splitting anyway, but...yeah..
#36
i think this is a relatively silly idea, i'd rather have 5 one-trick ponies than have a ridiculous looking guitar, but if you're hell bent on this, then go with Shinozoku's idea.
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#37
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the hellraiser you're talking about has an 81TW and an 89, not an 81/85 set..

and it's not really coil splitting anyway, but...yeah..


I see, didn't know they had different ones in that model, either way I wasn't impressed with it.
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