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#1
I really don't understand why people fight all the time anymore. It seems like such a risk to physically attack someone. There are lawsuits, and jail time that you would have to serve. If it's in a public place you can be charged with disrupting the peace, felony assault and battery. It just seems like such a bad idea. If you really have that big of a problem with someone why not walk away, or if it's bad enough take legal action?

It just doesn't make sense to me. I see so many answers on this site as "beat the shit out of him." What does that actually solve? "I'm right because I'm stronger than you"? That logic is just so assenine.
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#2
you dont like what soemones doing beat the shit out of them so theyll stop or else youll beat the shit out of them again. violence!! the only answer to anyones problems....just kidding
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#4
It usually involves alcohol. Although I do know people who think it's hilarious to beat the shit out of people. They're absolute scum.

The reason people on this site suggest violence as a solution to problems is because they're moronic, and in 90% of cases they wouldn't do it if they were in the situation themselves.
#5
Well, sometimes people suck, and you have to hit them for them to fully understand that they should not suck, but rather just chill. Sometimes the person that sucks thinks the other person sucks too, so they hit back.

After a while this just turns into a violent orgy
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#6
It's the nature of people, no matter howe much time goes on humans still will be humans.
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Remember the last time you were in a fight. How angry were you? Why were you that angry? Must've been for a reason that you were angry enough to raise you fist to beat the shit out of someone else.

Fear -> Anger -> Hate -> Fight -> Trouble.
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This is a bullshit answer. There is no animal that is inherently violent. It's just a means to an end, and with modern laws its usually an unsuccessful means to an end, so I don't see why people do it.
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#10
Violence is the quickest way to get through to someone.
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#12
I dont like you, let's fight about it
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#13
What annoys me is hearing my dad and older men talk about how they used to get in fights and it wasn't really anything. Both of the fighters used to be uncowardly about it all. Like this one guy, he told a story about how he and this german kid disliked each other. So, they both were like, "Meet in the field? We'll duke it out." So, they did. Ended up fighting well and became friends.

The thing was there wasn't anybody running to mommy or daddy. Nobody called the police. And no one sued. That's how it's sposed to work, TS! But hell, that was 50 years ago...
#14
If you've never kicked the shit out of someone for a good reason then you'll never know. You can't avoid physical conflict. Sorry to tell you but the real world is a lot more complex than your mind wants to think, sitting behind a computer screen typing away.

Say someone shot your mom. Would you want to take legal action? Or one by one rip out his teeth with pliers before sticking his head in a vice and popping his eyes out of his head?

It's survival of the fittest. That's how the world works. Physical conflicts are a part of it. Hell, look at most sports. It's part of who we are. All of you 'peaceful' 'green minded' girls who are afraid of a little discomfort are the ones that need to get your heads straight..
#15
I agree, violence is a stupid answer to anything. I think that it should be a last resort and should only be used if someone is psychically threatening or try to harm you in any way. Fighting to show your stronger than someone else and trying to make yourself look cool is stupid.
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Remember the last time you were in a fight. How angry were you? Why were you that angry? Must've been for a reason that you were angry enough to raise you fist to beat the shit out of someone else.

Fear -> Anger -> Hate -> Fight -> Trouble.


The only two times I've been in fights I was hit first. I haven't thrown the first punch, and in both cases I didn't hit after they stopped hitting. I put one in a headlock until a teacher came, and the other I put him in a hold until he stopped fighting.
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#17
Violence is often revenge for something: it's pretty unusual for it to be a case of someone trying to settle an argument by proving they're "right because they're stronger"
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#18
it's kinda in our instincts to attack at certain events. if something gets you mad enough and you don't have enough control over your own temper, then you will fight. some people have more control over their anger than others. i tend to keep my rage down for the most part. if i need to, i'll consult authorities or whoever i should contact.
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What annoys me is hearing my dad and older men talk about how they used to get in fights and it wasn't really anything. Both of the fighters used to be uncowardly about it all. Like this one guy, he told a story about how he and this german kid disliked each other. So, they both were like, "Meet in the field? We'll duke it out." So, they did. Ended up fighting well and became friends.

The thing was there wasn't anybody running to mommy or daddy. Nobody called the police. And no one sued. That's how it's sposed to work, TS! But hell, that was 50 years ago...


That is totally how it should work. Don't sit down and cry about your problems. Punch each other a few times.
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f you've never kicked the shit out of someone for a good reason then you'll never know. You can't avoid physical conflict. Sorry to tell you but the real world is a lot more complex than your mind wants to think, sitting behind a computer screen typing away.

Say someone shot your mom. Would you want to take legal action? Or one by one rip out his teeth with pliers before sticking his head in a vice and popping his eyes out of his head?

It's survival of the fittest. That's how the world works. Physical conflicts are a part of it. Hell, look at most sports. It's part of who we are. All of you 'peaceful' 'green minded' girls who are afraid of a little discomfort are the ones that need to get your heads straight..
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The world isn't as complicated as you think, and how many times has someone shot your mom? I don't disagree with self defense, but really calling me a girl because I'm passive? I'm a self preserver and I'd rather not go to jail. I guess if you want to live a violent, and impulsive lifestyle you can, but there are consequences for it.
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#21
It's also a male dominance thing, not wanting to back down for fear of looking stupid etc.
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Say someone shot your mom. Would you want to take legal action? Or one by one rip out his teeth with pliers before sticking his head in a vice and popping his eyes out of his head.



uhg, moron. if there was no violence then his mom wouldnt be shot in the first place.
#23
it's not about, "I'm right because I'm stronger than you." it's about, "because you're being an ass I'm going to beat you up"
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#24
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The only two times I've been in fights I was hit first. I haven't thrown the first punch, and in both cases I didn't hit after they stopped hitting. I put one in a headlock until a teacher came, and the other I put him in a hold until he stopped fighting.


I've fought twice as well, and didn't throw the first punch. But I sure as hell didn't hold the mofo in a headlock. He was trying to beat the shit out of me and I was doing the same.
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uhg, moron. if there was no violence then his mom wouldnt be shot in the first place.


There is no such thing as a world without violence, it is human nature to let out agressions by fighting or yelling, stop dreaming about a perfect world where it's all sunshine and butterflies and hugs because it's not gonna happen, wake up to the real world.
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#26
Doesn't really matter how wrong violence is, it sells and it means more than words to me.
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The world isn't as complicated as you think, and how many times has someone shot your mom? I don't disagree with self defense, but really calling me a girl because I'm passive? I'm a self preserver and I'd rather not go to jail. I guess if you want to live a violent, and impulsive lifestyle you can, but there are consequences for it.


Just hypotherically, TS, if you were out walking with your girlfriend and some guy, same size as you and everything, slaps her on the ass and smirks at both of you... how would you respond?
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The world isn't as complicated as you think, and how many times has someone shot your mom? I don't disagree with self defense, but really calling me a girl because I'm passive? I'm a self preserver and I'd rather not go to jail. I guess if you want to live a violent, and impulsive lifestyle you can, but there are consequences for it.



I wasn't calling you a girl specifically. I am referring to the number of people who are too afraid of getting hurt to solve their own problems, so they run to mommy and daddy, or a teacher, or the cops. "Oh so and so hit me wah wah wah." It's pathetic. The entire human race is based on tribal warfare and survival of the fittest. It's not my fault you've been raised to be afraid and weak, sorry, a 'self preserver'.

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#29
Asinine.

And people fight because of poor social skills and lack of self esteem.

Most people, anyway. If it's 'chest puffing' then it's one of the above.
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it's not about, "I'm right because I'm stronger than you." it's about, "because you're being an ass I'm going to beat you up"


That's still dumb logic. I'm less of an ass than you so I'll escalate our confrontation by beating you? Why would you give anyone the power to put you in jail like that? I mean by hitting someone, you are giving them the opportunity to go a whole step further and ruin your life. Assault and battery is a felony, you can serve prison time over it, have fun getting a respectable job with a conviction on your record.
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#31
well how am I supposed to Hammer Smash someones Face without physical violence?
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There is no such thing as a world without violence, it is human nature to let out agressions by fighting or yelling, stop dreaming about a perfect world where it's all sunshine and butterflies and hugs because it's not gonna happen, wake up to the real world.



randomly shooting some random woman is a pointless crime. pointless violence... absolutely no reason behind it. it shouldnt exist. its not human nature to randomly destroy everything around you.
#33
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That's still dumb logic. I'm less of an ass than you so I'll escalate our confrontation by beating you? Why would you give anyone the power to put you in jail like that? I mean by hitting someone, you are giving them the opportunity to go a whole step further and ruin your life. Assault and battery is a felony, you can serve prison time over it, have fun getting a respectable job with a conviction on your record.


You're obviously deaf and blind to the world. Have fun getting walked all over by people with spines kid.

Also, getting into a fight does not equal jail time. Whoever fed you that load of horse crap needs to stop talking out of their ass.
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If you've never kicked the shit out of someone for a good reason then you'll never know. You can't avoid physical conflict. Sorry to tell you but the real world is a lot more complex than your mind wants to think, sitting behind a computer screen typing away.

Right, so we can't avoid physical conflict, but then you go on to use how we've avoided physical conflict as an example for why we're wrong? Contradiction.

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Say someone shot your mom. Would you want to take legal action? Or one by one rip out his teeth with pliers before sticking his head in a vice and popping his eyes out of his head?

Nobody's saying you don't have to want to beat the living shit out of someone. The stupid thing is saying that it's possible to never want to. Everyone WANTS to at some point. The point you're missing is that it's about how you cope with that.

Ever hear of the story of two parents that looked the murderer of their child in the eye, and said "we forgive you"? Stuff like that are shining examples of human compassion and sensibility over mindless violence and hatred.

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It's survival of the fittest. That's how the world works. Physical conflicts are a part of it. Hell, look at most sports. It's part of who we are. All of you 'peaceful' 'green minded' girls who are afraid of a little discomfort are the ones that need to get your heads straight..

Physical conflicts are a part of it only because morons that think like you've just outlined continue to exist. If people get the attitude that violence can be justified and is 'how the world works', it remains so.

Nice end on a patronising note, but pacifism =/= afraid.


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You're obviously deaf and blind to the world. Have fun getting walked all over by people with spines kid.

Also, getting into a fight does not equal jail time. Whoever fed you that load of horse crap needs to stop talking out of their ass.



Right, so not getting into physical fights means we get walked all over? Nice logic, genius. You can have confrontation without physical elements.

And it can lead to jail time. All it takes is punching the wrong guy who will willingly report you to the authorities.

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If you've never kicked the shit out of someone for a good reason then you'll never know. You can't avoid physical conflict. Sorry to tell you but the real world is a lot more complex than your mind wants to think, sitting behind a computer screen typing away.

Say someone shot your mom. Would you want to take legal action? Or one by one rip out his teeth with pliers before sticking his head in a vice and popping his eyes out of his head?

It's survival of the fittest. That's how the world works. Physical conflicts are a part of it. Hell, look at most sports. It's part of who we are. All of you 'peaceful' 'green minded' girls who are afraid of a little discomfort are the ones that need to get your heads straight..


Wrong.

Stop trying to make people think you're a badass.
#36
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This is a bullshit answer. There is no animal that is inherently violent. It's just a means to an end, and with modern laws its usually an unsuccessful means to an end, so I don't see why people do it.


Of course we are, it is in our nature - to be better than everyone else, the alpha male. All predators are inherently violent to the degree of needing food, and pack hunters generally have an aloha male leading them, and how do you think he came to that position? Hardly diplomacy. Same has gone on for humans. Clan leaders for example, often in the position due to being better than the rest, someone people wouldn't **** with.

Also, war has been a part of human life for ever, either dominance for resources, land, people, hell, even meaningless things to a some people such as pride.

We fight because it is our nature, we fight to survive and dominate, oppress and enslave. We are not a "lovey dovey" species.
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I wasn't calling you a girl specifically. I am referring to the number of people who are too afraid of getting hurt to solve their own problems, so they run to mommy and daddy, or a teacher, or the cops. "Oh so and so hit me wah wah wah." It's pathetic. The entire human race is based on tribal warfare and survival of the fittest. It's not my fault you've been raised to be afraid and weak, sorry, a 'self preserver'.

Videogames, Sports, Music, Movies, TV Shows, Comics...everything everywhere has violence in it. It's part of life.


Social Darwinism doesn't make you very many friends; it just makes you look like an ass.

And the reason that authority figures are there is to solve problems like that. They're better at it than we are usually, mostly from experience, so they can help and end issues without violence.

I feel that if we give in and accept that peace will never be an option, violence will always be the only answer. As long as we strive for civility and peace, there's still hope for it.
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Right, so we can't avoid physical conflict, but then you go on to use how we've avoided physical conflict as an example for why we're wrong? Contradiction.


Nobody's saying you don't have to want to beat the living shit out of someone. The stupid thing is saying that it's possible to never want to. Everyone WANTS to at some point. The point you're missing is that it's about how you cope with that.

Ever hear of the story of two parents that looked the murderer of their child in the eye, and said "we forgive you"? Stuff like that are shining examples of human compassion and sensibility over mindless violence and hatred.


Physical conflicts are a part of it only because morons that think like you've just outlined continue to exist. If people get the attitude that violence can be justified and is 'how the world works', it remains so.

Nice end on a patronising note, but pacifism =/= afraid.



And if the majority of people like you existed all throughout time, the human race would have never survived because you'd be too afraid to go out and hunt. Cry somewhere else ladies. Violence is a part of nature whether you're willing to accept it or not.
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And if the majority of people like you existed all throughout time, the human race would have never survived because you'd be too afraid to go out and hunt. Cry somewhere else ladies. Violence is a part of nature whether you're willing to accept it or not.


Part of nature =/= necessary
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