#1
Does anyone else love this cartoon?

I discovered it when looking through the wikipedia page of Steve Ressel, one of the producers of Invader Zim (in the earlier episodes, he has frequent cameos as a portly man with black hair and a beard). Instead of me writing out the plot synopsis for those of you who dont know it, let me shamelessly copy/paste from wikipedia:

The series was based on God (voiced by James Garner) and the Devil (voiced by Alan Cumming) making a bet over the fate of the world. God wants to wipe humanity off the face of the planet and start over, but he realizes that He's "not that kind of God." The devil gets to choose one person, and if that person does not prove they have made the world a better place, God will destroy the world. The devil chooses Bob Alman (voiced by French Stewart), a beer-drinking, porno-watching auto plant worker from the suburbs of Detroit who, when asked to save humanity from complete annihilation, asks "What's in it for me?"


Now this cartoon only had 13 episodes, since obviously religious groups in the US were heavily against the depiction of God in a cartoon, and the producers didn't think the show was strong enough to stand against the criticism.

I however think this was a mistake. I think the show is hilarious, it pokes a lot of fun at religion, but without ever looking down on it. Why christians were ever against this show, I'll never know.

But, see for yourself; since only 4 episodes were ever broadcast in America and only a handful of DVD's were made, all of the episodes can be found on youtube:

Episode 1 Part 1

If you haven't seen it yet, check it out, and if you have, let's discuss it here!
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#2
Don't like the animation much. =/
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Don't like the animation much. =/

I didn't either at first, but remember, it's just the pilot episode. The animation in the pilots is always sub-par, it gets better along the way.

EDIT: I mean, just watch the first episodes of the Simpsons! that is some of the worst animation I've EVER seen, but it doesn't matter since the stories are cool, and IMO, that's what this show has as well.
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#6
Pretty interesting. I'd definitely watch it nowadays.
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Pretty interesting. I'd definitely watch it nowadays.

what do you mean nowadays? you wouldn't have watched it before?
#9
Hmm, I watched Episode 1 Part 1, and it's pretty good. There were a few "obvious" religion jokes in the first minute or so of the episode, but as a whole, it was enjoyable.
I'd rather watch this than most of the crap on TV anyway. Too bad it only went one season.
#11
Awesome show. Well, first episode at least
Thanks Corey, I'll be watching those sometime
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#12
tbh, I only watched the first two episodes, but I liked it so much that I decided to make a thread about it

I dont know how the show will progress, but hey, what can go wrong, right?


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#14
well i thoroughly enjoyed that clip.where can i see the rest of these?
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#17
this is pretty good. And the animationm, negligable. I acknowledge but it doesn't matter to me. I watch mainly old shows/movies anywayz.
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Wasn't Robert Downey Jr. supposed to play the Devil, but didn't turn up and got fired?

Where did you hear about this? It doesn't say so on the wiki page.

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well i thoroughly enjoyed that clip.where can i see the rest of these?

dude, they have all of the episodes on youtube. just look at the "related videos", they're all there.
#21
This is awesome! Thanks for showing me that this show exists
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#22
I've watched 5 so far, it's pretty awesome.
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#23
Just reading up on it, apparently it was cancelled after network executives received an alarming number of complaints about its potentially offensive religious material?

But anything that involves any religion is potentialy offensive to a different religion.

Should 'Clash of the Titans' be banned because it shows a different portrayal of gods to the one accepted by Christianity?
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#24
Brilliant, brilliant show, wish it got shown more over here... and more episodes made.

Interestingly this was one of the first comments on the link Corey posted:

um im a christian and what i have to say is this show is making our savior and the devil be best friends and walk together on earth satan/the devel is the enemy who comes to kill steal and destroy and to torment god sent his son jesus to die on the cross for our sin


... this is why everyone think religious people are boring bastards. They are.
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#25
it was an ok show. i'll never understand europeans. they think this mediocre show was "brilliant" while just yesterday one told me that arrested development was an unfunny, terribly written and acted show.

you guys is crazy.
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it was an ok show. i'll never understand europeans. they think this mediocre show was "brilliant" while just yesterday one told me that arrested development was an unfunny, terribly written and acted show.

you guys is crazy.


I love Arrested Development as well, it's just never on over here
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Brilliant, brilliant show, wish it got shown more over here... and more episodes made.

Interestingly this was one of the first comments on the link Corey posted:


... this is why everyone think religious people are boring bastards. They are.

good lord, that comment made both my brain AND my balls hurt

Seriously, i don't get what's so offensive about it. The Devil was once a great angel, and was kicked out of heaven for trying to take over heaven. Why would God simply not want to see him anymore? Isn't God forgiving? Why wouldn't God still want to stay in touch with him, even if he didn't turn out the way he wanted him to?
If humans are created in God's image, then God must have human in him, too.

This show actually makes more sense about religion than anyone ever has.
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good lord, that comment made both my brain AND my balls hurt

Seriously, i don't get what's so offensive about it. The Devil was once a great angel, and was kicked out of heaven for trying to take over heaven. Why would God simply not want to see him anymore? Isn't God forgiving? Why wouldn't God still want to stay in touch with him, even if he didn't turn out the way he wanted him to?
If humans are created in God's image, then God must have human in him, too.

This show actually makes more sense about religion than anyone ever has.

True.
The original Abrahamic notion of Satan comes from the Biblical book of Job where 'ha-satan' ("the accuser") is the title of an angel that works for God. In Judaism 'ha-satan' does not cause evil, but rather points out to God the evil inclinations and actions of humankind. So according to the original mythology on the subject, there's no reason why God and Satan wouldn't associate with each other.
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True.
The original Abrahamic notion of Satan comes from the book of Job where 'ha-satan' ("the accuser") is the title of an angel that works for God. In Judaism 'ha-satan' does not cause evil, but rather points out to God the evil inclinations and actions of humankind. So according to the original mythology on the subject, there's no reason why God and Satan wouldn't associate with each other.

I did not know that, but it's really interesting how christianity and judaism differ even on such basic matters, yet both obviously share the same roots.

Anyways, I'm almost done ripping all of the episodes from youtube, thank god this is a short-lived series
The only thing that bugs me is episode 5, I can't find parts 4 & 5 for it. Oh well, guess I'm gonna have to use other means to obtain it.
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I did not know that, but it's really interesting how christianity and judaism differ even on such basic matters, yet both obviously share the same roots.


Pretty much the same scripture too, the book of Job may have originaly been from the Tanakh, but it's also a part of the Christian Bible too, and interestingly, in the book of Job, God actualy places a wager with Satan about Job's piety, God gives him permission to test the faith of Job. The righteous man is afflicted with loss of family, property, and later, health, but he still stays faithful to God.

So, it's right there in the Christian Bible, God and Satan hanging out together and laying bets. Doesn't sound a million miles away from a 'God, The Devil And Bob' plot really.
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Pretty much the same scripture too, the book of Job may have originaly been from the Tanakh, but it's also a part of the Christian Bible too, and interestingly, in the book of Job, God actualy places a wager with Satan about Job's piety, God gives him permission to test the faith of Job. The righteous man is afflicted with loss of family, property, and later, health, but he still stays faithful to God.

So, it's right there in the Christian Bible, God and Satan hanging out together and laying bets. Doesn't sound a million miles away from a 'God, The Devil And Bob' plot really.

And the portrayal of god as an omniscient, but vague deity is pretty accurate if you ask me

Also, that story of Job thing I learned from South Park
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And the portrayal of god as an omniscient, but vague deity is pretty accurate if you ask me

Also, that story of Job thing I learned from South Park

Typical, I spend years studying this stuff only to find out I coulda just 'learned it from South Park'.