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A man in Williamson County, Texas, has become the first man to be given a life sentence for repeat drink-drive convictions. The prosecution attorney called for the harsh sentence due to the extreme likelihood that the man would not only reoffend but also end up killing someone.

This was the man's NINTH conviction for the same offense.

from the article:
'This is someone who very deliberately has refused to make changes and continued to get drunk and get in a car and before he kills someone we decided to put him away,' said Williamson County District Attorney John Bradley.


Article-
http://news1.capitalbay.com/news/repeat_offender_becomes_first_person.html

Whilst I can agree with the reasoning, surely a life sentence is a little OTT?
#2
It is not, he had 8 times to stop drinking and driving, he should rot away in jail.
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Think of it this way though, if you saw a news article that said a man who had been convicted 9 times for drink driving, had had another accident and killed a family of 4, you'd probably say;

"why the hell wasn't this guy locked up a long time ago?"

serves him right.
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#6
I guess he couldn't beer to give up drinking and driving.

EDIT: I bet he whiskey'd stopped before he got sentenced to life!

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It is not, he had 8 times to stop drinking and driving, he should rot away in jail.


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I hate the term 'drink-drive'.
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#10
Seems that he either has a drink problem or a serious mental issue. Surely dealing with that is cheaper than putting him in jail?
#11
Over the top?

Think about it this way, if he had killed someone the ninth time he got drunk and decided to drive he would have got life considering his previous charges. The fact that he didn't kill someone was pure luck, his intention was exactly the same so why don't we punish him in the same way?
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Over the top?

Think about it this way, if he had killed someone the ninth time he got drunk and decided to drive he would have got life considering his previous charges. The fact that he didn't kill someone was pure luck, his intention was exactly the same so why don't we punish him in the same way?



Most drink-drivers don't INTEND to kill anyone, except in a handful of rare cases.
#14
Lock him in AA, now if he happens to commit vehicular manslaughter whilst drunk..that's a different story.
#15
I don't have an issue with it. The man was given 8 chances to get his poop in a pile.
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I hate to be a grammar hound, but this thread is full of fail in that regard.

Drink problem? Really?


OT: I am not sure how I feel about this. I guess it is good because he won't kill someone...but the odds seem to be against him at this point. I mean, 9 times of getting caught and countless others where he didn't and he never killed anyone. Idk, just idk.

EDIT: My god, is it called drink-driving in Europe or Canada? Around here I believe it is called "drunk driving" or "driving under the influence."
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#17
He should've just been given a long rehab time, where you can't leave. That's where ALL drug/alcohol offenders should be. Not in jail. These people need a different kind of help.
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Same as everyone else- not over the top, drink driving should be a life sentence way before the 9th time.



THat would CERTAINLY solve the prison overcrowding issues in the US...
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THat would CERTAINLY solve the prison overcrowding issues in the US...


People would stop drinking and driving because the punishment would be too big.
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I hate the term 'drink-drive'.


Why? surely it's pretty apt for what it's describing.
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I found out earlier, just a sidenote, that it actually costs more to keep thieves in jail then the actual amount the steal.. that's quite ridiculous.
And actually, I do agree with rehab, this is more of a disease than a crime.
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Most drink-drivers don't INTEND to kill anyone, except in a handful of rare cases.
Exactly, what's the difference between a drunk driver who doesn't intend to kill someone but does and another that doesn't intend to kill someone and is lucky enough not to. He has smashed into cars before so it clearly luck rather than, for example, the ability to drive normaly despite being over the limit.
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Why? surely it's pretty apt for what it's describing.



Drunk driving is more correct. When you switch it, it becomes driving drunk, which still makes sense. Driving drink, however, doesn't.
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Most drink-drivers don't INTEND to kill anyone, except in a handful of rare cases.


Oh that's alright then.
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People would stop drinking and driving because the punishment would be too big.



Why not just go the full way and execute them?!


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#26
He should have gotten 10 years or so, but not Life...son of a bitch had it coming though; he should not be drinking that much, let alone drive whilst drunk.
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Actually there was a study. (IIRC.) That showed states that support capital punishment actually have higher murder rates. Stricter punishments don't prevent crime. People in Saudi Arabia still commit adultery, despite the fact if they're caught they'll be brutally murdered.

I think the differenes between rich and poor, as well as the amount of poorer people contribue a bit there. The differences are bigger in US than in Norway, as well as guns being more accessible. Just saying.
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Actually there was a study. (IIRC.) That showed states that support capital punishment actually have higher murder rates. Stricter punishments don't prevent crime. People in Saudi Arabia still commit adultery, despite the fact if they're caught they'll be brutally murdered.


Studies like that are always complete and utter shite.

The first rule of experimental design is that you must have appropriate samples - people from two different countries, religions, and cultures aren't appropriate samples.
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Actually there was a study. (IIRC.) That showed states that support capital punishment actually have higher murder rates. Stricter punishments don't prevent crime. People in Saudi Arabia still commit adultery, despite the fact if they're caught they'll be brutally murdered.


This is not capital punishment though just in prison for life, and there will always be people who commit crimes no matter what the punishment, increasing the punishment just reduces it a bit.
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He should have gotten 10 years or so, but not Life...son of a bitch had it coming though; he should have cut the drinking.



10 years seems reasonable.
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I don't agree with drinking and driving, but surely there is a better way to deal with someone that you're just assuming will eventually kill someone.
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Drunk driving is more correct. When you switch it, it becomes driving drunk, which still makes sense. Driving drink, however, doesn't.


That's fair enough I guess.
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People would stop drinking and driving because the punishment would be too big.

Wow... that is a very low intelligence statement Look up the statistics.
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#35
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It was from a book that questioned the reliability of similar studies.

And bigger punishments don't mean people are less likely to commit a crime, they just mean to person knows it's going to suck a lot worse if they get caught.


A.k.a deterrence.

I'm actually against the death penalty, but those studies are hopeless.
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A.k.a deterrence.

I'm actually against the death penalty, but those studies are hopeless.

And deterrence works so well to stop people smoking cannab...

Wait.
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People would stop drinking and driving because the punishment would be too big.


which is exactly why no one sells crack or murders anyone anymore. oh wait.


its dumb to send someone to jail for life because they may kill someone in the future. if you want to send someone to jail for 9 drunk driving offenses, thats another issue entirely, but to hinge it on something that may or may not happen is completely ludicrous.
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#38
Well he clearly isn't going to stop doing it. However, I'm undecided on the punishment. I don't really have too much of a problem with it, though. He's just lucky he hasn't killed himself, let alone anyone else.
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And deterrence works so well to stop people smoking cannab...

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