#1
A7 E7 C7 B7 B♭7

Im confused to figure this out. Is this even in a key?
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#2
I'd say E blues because you have A Bb and B in there...

edit: Actually, E blues doesn't have a C in it. Could be A blues, with Bb just as an odd chord thrown in.
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#3
hmm

A7 = A C# E G

E7 = E G# B D

C7 = C E G Bb

B7 = B D# F# A

Bb7 = Bb D F Ab

that first A is the V of the E (secondary dominant)

yeah im confused - might need some more explainin'

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#4
A is the IV chord in E btw
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#5
The key is A.

The progression is I - V, then a chromatic walkdown from C to A.

You're correct that this isn't really a key, and it's hardly even a progression, but it centers around A, so it's A.

On the other hand, A is dominant, so E is another possibility.

From a Jazz standpoint it would be up to you, my friend!
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#6
The first 3 chords establish a key of G-probably major. The next 2 modulate it to D-probably minor.
#7
Hmm, playing it again, not sure about G for the first 3- watch this space
#8
Ok, it's definitely in D by the end. The beginning is very ambiguous. The first 2 chords establish a key of E, the third makes it modulate to G. The last 2 make it a key of D.
#9
This kind of progression you can't look at the notes. You have to use your ear. However, just by looking I want to say Key of A. Play it and see where it resolves. That's the key.
#10
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A7 E7 C7 B7 B♭7

Im confused to figure this out. Is this even in a key?



is this from a song, or just some random chords you threw together?
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#11
I'll back the key of A major. The C is borrowed from the parallel minor, and the Bb7 is just chromatically linking the B7 and A7. It sounds pretty cool.
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I'll back the key of A major. The C is borrowed from the parallel minor, and the Bb7 is just chromatically linking the B7 and A7. It sounds pretty cool.


Well, the problem with the borrowed chord analysis is that C7 doesn't exist in Am.
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#13
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Well, the problem with the borrowed chord analysis is that C7 doesn't exist in Am.


Interesting. Regardless I would still play it with an A major scale, accounting for accidentals in the chords along the way.
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#14
Reading it now I've had some sleep, I agree with AlanHB. Blues uses 7th chords more than anything else, so A blues would have a C7, and the Bb is a passing chord. I would like to know if they are a song or just a random bunch of chords you thought to ask us about though TS?
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#15
I really like that progression. It just begs for you to keep going!

I agree with everyone who's said it's in A, although there are a lot of accidentals.
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#16
The guy who said A was right, this is most likely in A major. its still very dodgy though, but for your apparent purposes just say its A.
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Well, the problem with the borrowed chord analysis is that C7 doesn't exist in Am.


Ever heard of altered chords?
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yup, and C7 isn't one.
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Ever heard of altered chords?

You can't borrow something unless the thing you're borrowing from has it... That would be like me asking an elephant if I could have his rifle. I can't, because the elephant doesn't have a rifle.

And C7 isn't an alt. chord by any means.
#20
Technically an Alt. chord is anything which is chromatically altered out of key. This includes triads. D major in the key of C major is an altered chord.

Altered dominants (which is what most people think of when they hear alt) is an altered dominant chord.
#21
Sometimes, when I cant figure out the tonality of a single part, I change my perspective a bit and look if there is actualy more than one tonality at the same time.

What sometimes looks like a chromatic progression or an exotic scale is actually a kind of mini modulation.

Tonal centers shift all the time, why couldnt tonality shift?

Looking at all the constituent notes of the chords, it definitly looks chromatic. Exept for the lack of C#. (Well, at least we can establish that it's not in a key of C#, right? :p)

Is that the exact sequence of the progression, btw? Having played it (sounds nice btw) A7 going into E7 sounds tonal, altough I think at least the G in the A7 is borrowed either way.
Then it goes into C7, which shifts the tonality a bit. I think it would naturally like to be dimminished if the tonalility didnt shift, but major sound better here annyway so..
Then it goes into B7 without much ado.. it seems like the shift of tonality becommes more apparent there.
bB7 doesnt seem to be shifting tonality, but wants to.. it feels like it needs something else to resolve to, but doesnt. Slightly frustrasting end chord, but maybe that is what you are going for

If you want to figure out what the tonality or possible key is, look first for the A and E, possibly including the C. Then look at the C and B. You might also want to decide if you keep the bB7, add another chord after that, or play a different one.

Remember that the only true scale is chromatic. Tonality shifts all the time. Keys&scales are artificial boundaries, but they are usefull to establish a sense of flow and intrest.
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Technically an Alt. chord is anything which is chromatically altered out of key. This includes triads. D major in the key of C major is an altered chord.

Altered dominants (which is what most people think of when they hear alt) is an altered dominant chord.


Technically, it's important to consider common usage, and the particular situation.

arguments over semantics only serve the argument.
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#24
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You can't borrow something unless the thing you're borrowing from has it... That would be like me asking an elephant if I could have his rifle. I can't, because the elephant doesn't have a rifle.

And C7 isn't an alt. chord by any means.


C7 is altered as the diatonic version of the III7 chord would be Cmaj7, the 7th degree is dropped another half step. therefore, altered. and I KNOW its not an "alt. chord", I'm not dumb, but it is altered.
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